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Dispute about moderation in rugby forum

  • 05-05-2025 10:16PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭


    Attempted to raise the non-warning of another poster in dispute moderation and was told I need to post here.

    How do I dispute a moderator choosing to ignore a post that is in clear violation of multiple rules in the forum charter?

    Post edited by Spear on


Comments

  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,900 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Showing us the post and outlining the rules it's breaking would be the first step.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    What’s “clear” to you might not be clear to a mod, F.

    Not being smart but all you can do is report the post, it’s up to the mod whether they agree with you, or not.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    See below. Take your pick of which rugby forum charter rules, it breaks 1) attacking the poster not the post, just mocks, 2) abuse, 3) trolling, 4) making jokes/jibes about a poster, 5) 'being a dick'.

    In addition the post below breaks the forum guideline by being a one sentence post that does zero to stimulate conversation - instead it is just an abusive meme directed towards me for a single post where I accepted a player's weakness, just disagreed with the hyperbole the OP used about a specific instance.

    The offending poster doesn't even have excusable context that I was spamming the thread giving my opinion about the player for pages and pages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    That is fine with me if everyone is treated the same way.

    I know that if I start responding to posters I disagree with with just crying memes I'd be banned very quickly.

    That is two tier moderation.



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,900 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    One of the rugby mods issued a warning for that post a couple of hours ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    That post is still up while others around it were edited for the content to be removed. Why the continued differing treatment of posters receiving warnings?

    I acknowledge the belated warning but it doesn't really deal with the issue of the two tiered moderation by certain mods.

    One mod has warned it but multiple other mods were active in the forum prior to this and did nothing, the most obvious example being @ShamoBuc who warned other posts around it but refused to give a warning to this offending post when I originally reported it and then doubled and tripled down in their defense of it in PMs with me.

    From your point of view does that post break any/all of the rugby charter rules that I listed? I'd understand if this was a grey area but this seems so blatant - with posters regularly warned and banned in that forum for far, far less.



  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,900 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I would say yes it does break some of the rules and the user should have been warned, which they were in the end (without any intervention from me I might add).

    This is exactly why busy forums like rugby have more than one mod. One didn't think it worthy of a warning, another disagreed and after some discussion applied one.

    As for two tiered moderation, well someone who regularly gets warned is going to have less leeway given to them than someone with a cleaner record. I don't really see any issue with that, it's up to posters to modify their behaviour if they keep getting in trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Well isn't this a chicken or egg scenario?

    If there is two tiered moderation then of course the posters who support a certain team will have worse records than a similar poster of another, where the mod is always giving them the benefit of the doubt. Using a bad record as a feedback loop to justify clearly improper actions by mods is simply a badly thought out approach. With that said, I really dont get what you're implying about my record, I've received a handful of warnings coming up on two decades here.

    I'd hardly pat the system on the back as it working well when it took that long for one of the many active mods to warn that abusive post and only after I opened two threads complaining about it.

    While abusive posts with no other content are being ignored, posters from other provinces are getting straight points for their opinion that mods simply dislike. If the same warning stick was used since Saturday on posts talking down Leinster that could be deemed as provocative to their fanbase then there would barely be a poster left on the forum. I'm not calling for all those posts to be warned, just a level playing field in moderation.

    If this direct abuse is being repeatedly justified by a mod then do you not see the issue that much minor infractions will obviously be let away with, while other posters wont receive the same leeway? It is impossible to modify posting style if rules aren't enforced consistently - it is the same in rugby, where you cant play to a ref's interpretation of the laws if they keep changing depending on who has the ball.

    The rugby forum has hemorrhaged good posters recently, in part because of this exact stuff.



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