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General Premier League Thread 2024-25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Frimpong. He tried to join as a teenager but his parents wouldn't drive him to Liverpool for training (they lived in Greater Manchester) so he joined City instead

    There was a clip of him on international duty playfully speaking with a scouse accent to Gravenberch which got people talking as well as rumours of a low release clause

    However, I don't think we're actually in for him and he's even more attacking than Trent

    Bradley should start the season as RB with Gomez and Quansah covering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,434 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    He's perfectly fine outside the injury issues. He kinda reminds me of a younger Robertson.

    It'd be a risk starting next season with him as no. 1 choice at RB but a LB, CF and possibly DM are probably of higher need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Gravenberch, Endo, Morton, Bajcetic all cover DM. Even though I expect Morton will leave in the summer, I expect the other 3 to stay and be enough cover



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,085 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Why what does it seem?

    What issue have you got with either spurs/bodo or united/bilbao being in the CL?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,231 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    I thought Graveberch was quite good at DM this season.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,434 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    He was but Slot hadn't someone he trusts to play the role the same way and Gravenbach probably won't be available for the same minutes next year between proper rest and potential injury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Just catching up with this on MoTD. Christ they love a dive. Blatant dive for the 2nd overturned pen and a dive from Barnes to win the free for the penalty that was given (dragged his leg to initiate contact). It looked like O’Riley could have had one up the other end as well, Tonali kicked through his standing leg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,479 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    They know the referees are going to give it to them too. 3 attempts to give them a penalty (plus a ropey as f*ck free kick to set up the actual penalty) before Pawson was able to give them one that actually stuck.


    Who could have guessed that letting regimes with ridiculously questionable records into football was going to make it harder to trust what you’re watching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    https://x.com/TrentAA/status/1919317181315023106?t=cE0Aa2zRkHT5IRFmoUUuEA&s=19

    Trent leaving Liverpool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,041 ✭✭✭golfball37


    He decided that over 12 months ago. Can’t begrudge anyone getting an upwards move no matter what their chosen career is. Most of us would do the same in our own jobs.
    I think he’ll be brilliant for them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,529 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Everyone knew TAA was leaving so I'd assume Liverpool have been sounding out potential replacements for a while now. If they haven't someone in recruitment has dropped the ball. They must have a big enough transfer budget they spent nothing last Summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,330 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Are Madrid entering another galactico age, similar to the early noughties?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭riddles


    Is Sky using canned fans singing at matches now - constant hum of fans in this Palace - Forest game seems very constant and similar to what I heard Brighton v Newcastle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,993 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Theyve been doing it for Leeds matches for years anyway to cover up a certain chant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Conor Bradley will be trusted. Gomez and Quansah will cover

    It's centre back and left back that will be strengthened instead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Yeah I agree I think he'll be great for them, just makes so much sense on both sides.

    They'll hire Alonso too who is used to playing with Frimpong really successfully last few years so that will be his role

    If he fails there, Liverpool will take him back, if he succeeds he'll be there for the rest of his elite career before going off the States



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    1-0 to palace via eze pen. though i do think forest should have had one shortly before HT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,330 ✭✭✭doc_17


    I hold nothing against Trent for leaving. But just leave, don’t say how much you love the club and fans as you’re walking away for a better offer. He can’t have his cake and eat it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,039 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    its a bit **** he didnt sign a token extension with a 20m release clause to ensure the club he loves so much gets some cash.

    i suppose all players are mercenaries these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,878 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    You don't think he genuinely loves the club? He grew up down the road and has been at the club 20 years. And he's only 26.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Probably because Real wouldn't pay it...

    This stuff was probably informally wrapped up a long time ago.

    I



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,665 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I don't think we can really put those sorts of pressures on players… like, these are the same clubs that break the hearts of dozens of kids and teenagers every year because they don't serve the clubs needs to a high enough standard, and the same clubs who are only too happy to offload an injured player at the end of a contract to get rid of their wages (like Matip), let lads go who are desperate to stay, or keep lads tied up who might want to leave.

    We all love our clubs, but they're not benevolent. The clubs do what's good for themselves, and they're just as complicit in football's greed as the agents and players are.

    I'm disappointed Trent's leaving, but I can't say the fact he's leaving on a free is part of that — I want the club to get money so they can get other good players of course, but imo that's just not any player's responsibility. I'm more just disappointed that the player wants to go somewhere else when we're in such a good position. I do also understand it though — we've only one life to live, and I can totally understand the draw to get more experience out of it rather than copy/pasting years upon years of broadly the same routines in the same place... I daresay if I was a player, I'd probably prefer to get a few different experiences out of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,960 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    To get into the "Champions" league Utd will have to have won the FA Cup and followed it up by winning the Europa League.

    Utd's inclusion seems fairly fair in that sense.

    I suspect if the club getting in via this method wasn't Utd people wouldn't have cared as much.

    Are people as arsed that a club can finish 5th in the PL, go out in every cup 1st round and get a CL spot?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,296 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    No one cared when it was Sevilla finishing 12th and qualifying the CL. They were happy Sevilla was winning another European trophy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,665 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Ah the Utd thing is a great story — having to win the FA cup to get into the Europa, and then having to win that to get bumped up to the Champions League is a pretty cool route through over the course of a couple years. Yeah, they'll maybe be off the pace in the CL next year in comparison to the best of the best, but there's no shortage of teams in the same boat in this expanded CL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭Girly Gal


    I'd agree with a lot of what you say, but, players can't have it both ways either; go for the money, but, still claim to love the club, especially when it's obvious that this has been planned from a long way out. Also going to Madrid leaves a bad taste, a club that has inflicted painful defeats to Liverpool and not being very gracious in doing so. Liverpool are also in a strong position, so it's not like he’s leaving a struggling club with no hope of winning CL in the near future, added to that it's his boyhood club, but, the way it's played out, he looks like a guy who really couldn't care less for the club and some of his displays this season look like he didn't.

    I think if Liverpool sign a solid replacement they will actually be stronger, so I don't mind that he's leaving it's just the manner in how he's leaving isn't great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,665 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Life is more complicated and nuanced than that though — you can definitely both love your boyhood club that gave you your career and some of the best moments of your life, and also quite understandably want to go experience something else and get a great wage to do it. We all know how embedded he's been within his community for his whole life, and just how much work he's put into local charity stuff, local school's stuff, and hospital stuff… at 26, even with all those connections, I can see how someone might like to try moving away from the city they've spent their entire life living in up to this point and try something new.

    Yeah, Real have beaten Liverpool a few times… I don't think that should be a consideration though, it's just too superficial and removed from the actual real choices of a player's real career and real life, and it's not like he's joining Utd or something. Players don't exist to tick off PR boxes... Madrid is a cool city, and Real's a massive club, about to bring in a brilliant (and Liverpool adjacent) manager, and one of his best friends already plays there.

    Of course it tars his legacy more than if he'd stayed a one-club man or whatever, but that's alright. We don't need to view him as a lifetime legend kinda guy, but also don't need to begrudge him making life choices that do something other than devote his career to his boyhood team. I'm disappointed he's leaving, but I'm glad we had him. I won't be deifying him, but I also wouldn't boo him if he comes back to play at some stage.

    Ultimately, we all have more important things going on in our lives than whether or not Trent stays or goes. So I think its fair enough that he bases his choices on things other than our fleeting emotional responses and reactions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,080 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Did Liverpool just dump off the injured Matip? Thats pretty shìtty. I thought most teams (at least big ones) kept on injured players throughout rehab/recovery regardless of contract, they can afford it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,909 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    He retired after his contract expired, same with Thiago. Neither had played in a long time and were never going to recover to play again at that age unfortunately



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