Harry and Meghan

Just watched Harry's interview with the BBC. I do feel sorry for him regarding losing his mother so early in life and having to walk behind the coffin in such a public fashion. He has also had his biological origins questioned. That being said he has learned nothing from Andrew's interview with Emily Maitlis. I don't think this is quite as bad, but it is clearly ill advised.

He comes across as a spoiled brat who doesn't accept responsibility for the choices he makes and has an inflated opinion of himself and his own importance. It's a staggering fall from grace. Before he met Meghan he was a very popular member of the royal family. Now he's an outcast who pleads for privacy yet hogs the limelight at every opportunity.

He chose to leave the royal family. He chose to move to the U.S. He chose Meghan for better or for worse. His sister in law and father are battling cancer so crying about personal security in this light seems like someone who is self centred. Like his uncle his lack of self awareness is startling and for one so well educated borders on the bizarre.

His granny used to always say never complain never explain. Pity her descendants didn't heed such wise words.

He’s been around long enough to know what he was doing in that interview- he’s stirring the sh1te for his own selfish ends- he’s a total pr1ck

Thats exactly it. Harry didn't want to be a working member of the royal family. He wanted to remove himself from the spotlight and live a quiet life. His family said fair enough if that's what you want. We now hear more from Harry then we ever did. He's courting and using the media to keep himself in the spotlight. He's really embarrassing himself. Why can't he just sit back and enjoy the quiet life he wanted.

It seems he still wants to be famous, earn loads of money, have the UK pay for his security but doesn't want to do the boring work of a royal. He still wants his kids to have Royal titles. It doesn't work like that Harry! He's effed his life up horrendously.

At least the other members of the royal family keep their mouths shut. I bet they have a bigger story to tell than Harry's narrative of the situation.

So the general gist here is Harry's a bit of a tosser?

He was asked for specific names as to who he believes wants to see him in harms way. His reply. "I'm not going to share, at this point". It's another guess who game just like the royal racist a few years back. Sh*t or get off the pot. Some things never change I guess as he's probably future faking/saving it all for Spare 2. Unless he can force a reconciliation. Great tactic if that's the case. Get along with me again or else I'll spill more tea and make a few more bucks. 🙄

Surely most can see by now why his family obviously want sweet FA to do with him.

What the court case showed was that there was an assessment made every year on the level of security needed. At Harry's last assessment in 2019, he (and QEII) were assessed to be most at risk. Princess Anne etc. are given the amount of security that they need (which you or I do not know obviously). All the Royals live in places that have security provided (i.e., Kensington Palace), Andrew on Windsor Estate, all Anne's family have homes on her estate. Only the Royals with multiple homes (Charles & William) would have need for extra security.

According to Court documents, Harry's security was cut off when he was still a working royal, so the working royal argument is redundant for that reason.

Charles evicted Harry from the secure home (gifted to Harry by the Queen, refurbishment paid for by Harry and was paying rent) he had in Windsor (which would not have put an extra cost on anyone as it is already protected).

Its still probably empty because Andrew refused to move, so its costing the Crown Estates money!

As for Harry staying in Royal Residence - to be spied on by the Royal Family when he is taking legal action against the British tabloids who Charles & William are beholden to and have actually supported the Daily Mail in Meghan's court case?

As for the trips abroad - you bet they get full security when visiting countries where there might be a threat. UK is unsafe because of the security offered (if Harry is at an official function such as coronation, trooping of guards etc)!

What makes you think they get paid for going to visit other countries? Who actually pays them to visit and why would they want them to?

Well, I think most people would be very upset with a parent who cut their security and left them stranded in another country while they were still working members of the royal family. Not only that, Charles cowardly let the security staff tell H&M that they were off. Then Charles (or his staff) leaks where they were staying in Canada to the tabloids! And Charles would not take calls from Harry.

And bear in mind, this all took place well before Harry and Meghan did any interviews or documentaries.

She really hasn't separated herself from Harry. H&M made millions from the book and docuseries. They bought a mansion in California with the proceeds, Meghan is wearing clothes & jewellery worth 1000s of dollars. If I was Harry, I don't think I'd want to have anything to do with his parent, though I can see why he would try and make the effort because of Charles's health & age situation. At least Harry will be able to say that he made the effort to reconcile.

Harry wanted to continue working for RF, but live in Africa or Canada (Commonwealth) for part of the year. His security was cut while he they were on an agreed break in Canada.

Harry had 38 years service at that stage, so would be entitled to both health care and a pension! In your case, if you left your job you would carry pension entitlements with you. You would not lose them. For example, Liz Truss was PM for about 3 months, she has a PMs pension and security for life.

But sod all that - the issue has been security as the son of the UK Head of State.

Why should Harry just shut up if he has a grievance? Why shouldn't people just shut up moaning about them?

Edit: Liz Truss was PM for 43 days and has a pension and lifelong full security. The UK taxpayer is paying for that.

Harry did not have paid employment. He was in the family firm. He had 38 years of service, so was well entitlted to a pension.

Anyway, pension isn't the same as security. Liz Truss gets a pension AND security for her 43 days of doing severe damage to the UK economy.

Needing security isn't exactly a perk of the job. I'd be pretty sure that there isn't a person alive who would would actually want to have fulltime protection.

Harry was born into the Royal Family - he can't resign from that. He is the son of the Head of State.

And the custom has been that all children and grandchildren of the Head of State (Queen/King) got full time protection until their 18th birthday at least. What about Harry's children? Why are they not getting protection?

Edit: Harry has offered to pay for his own protection so does not need to be a burden on the taxpayer.

Charles pays for Prince Andrews protection seemingly. And Andrew bringing the Royal Family into disrepute is far greater than anything that Harry has said or done. Its not as if Charles is short of money to actually pay for it anyway.

I'll repeat again. Protection is supplied to the royals based on the need (from court case I think it is assessed yearly). Harry's risk was last assessed in 2019. He has not been assessed since. Then he was in the same risk category as QEII - in more danger than KCII and William & family (due to probably having married a black woman - there are white supremacists in prison over threats to Harry & family and because of his military service in Afghanistan).

Its nothing to do with working/non-working. William's children (or indeed Kate) are hardly working. They get protection because of their relationship to the Head of State (King).

Harry is only looking for protection for his family (wife and children) in the UK. Not in the US.

Where did I say he was rich?

I never liked Meghan Markle ….. saw her as a manipulative drama queen from the very start ….. she 100% controls Harry and can manipulate every situation to suit her agenda …… by all means a bit of a bully too and a name caller ….. she lorded it over her staff and called Princess Catherine Waity Katie …. all in all not a nice person …… she destroyed Harry and I like Harry overall …. but Harry would be better off with someone else …..

So, as someone who has never met MM, you think that Harry would be better off leaving MM and his children with her?

In what way would he be better off? Have you someone in mind who he would be better off with?

Harry's security was taken from them when they were working royals. Read my post earlier.

He has offered to pay for his own security in the UK.

He does pay for his own security, but in the UK his personal security are denied access to intelligence (of threats) and they cannot carry firearms.

Andrew was sacked and he still has security in his home (which Charles was trying to evict him from and why he evicted Harry from his home so that he could put the sacked Andrew in it).

Writing a best selling book isn't easy I suppose!

Harry wanted to remain working as a Royal, but live abroad (in a Commonwealth Country where Harry's father is Head of State). What Harry wanted was for him and his family to stop being abused by the British press (and not be the scapegoat for the British Royal Family).