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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    I think there was someone that said recently that it cost the same amount to fly 100 people to Ireland and shoot most of the movie there than to just take a walk across the studios in US. (Paraphrasing there).

    What even is the tariff going to be based on? How do you even tariff a production. It's absolute batshit crazy stuff, that would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,047 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump: "I don't think a beautiful baby girl that's 11 years old needs to have 30 dolls. I think they can have three dolls or four dolls ... they don't need to have 250 pencils. They can have five."

    Couple of things here.

    1. 11 year old girls aren't babies
    2. 11 year old girls generally don't have dolls
    3. Why the **** is he talking about 11 year old having to skimp on school supllies as a result of this failed economic policy? Where the hell is Trump's sacrifice? Is he going to skimp on golf trips, expenses or wages? Is he f**k. This is the modern day "let them eat cake"

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,903 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    This might be The Rock that Trump flounders on

    What a silly orange man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Looks like a certain someone watched 'Escape From Alcatraz' over the weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I just love this. It should be a real Gotcha moment for the Democrats. I would love to see a journalist read to him what he said and then read out the oath of office he took.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/04/trump-due-process-rights-constitution

    I hope this figures in some future article of impeachment.

    Also there would seem to be a good place opening up to house MAGA criminals (following due process, of course):

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/04/politics/trump-alcatraz-prisons-reopen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I hope this just ends up helping movie industries around the world. I certainly don't want to only watch movies that are only shot in America, as if the rest of the world doesn't exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Out of curiousity, was she offended by the RTE Investigates programme about clerical child abuse in the Christian Brothers schools, cover ups by the hierarchy and their enormous wealth on Wednesday night?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I'd say Alcatraz earns a pretty penny for the people of California. Would be silly to convert it back to a prison. Another idea that will go absolutely nowhere and be forgotten soon enough. Trump is best ignored.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,829 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    It was Rob Lowe, he literally flies 100 Americans to Ireland for every episode of his gameshow "The Floor" which is filmed in Bray but you'd never know it:

    I'm not supporting the tariffs as a good way to combat this, but I completely understand the US Government thinking that it's ridiculous for it to be more cost efficient for Fox to film in Bray instead of LA where they have their studios. It's not like a King Arthur or Vikings or whatever where you want the Wicklow landscape to film, it's just a studio stage.

    Regardless of your leanings, this seems like something incentivised wrongly somewhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel




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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Ah that's what it was, it was in my head, thought it was a movie. Id say though the same goes in the movie sector, it would be vastly cheaper to shoot elsewhere. Probably even with the tariffs, whatever they are on 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,047 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Yes. That's the best idea.

    Ignore everything he says and does and therefore ensure he won't be held accountable for any of his despicable behavior and acts.

    Gotcha.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Calm yourself chief. When he comes out with silly things (e.g. Alcatraz, AI pics) he is best ignored. Alcatraz will not get rebuilt, 100% guaranteed. We all know it's silly.

    Or you can spend the next 4 years getting upset and obsessed. He talks a massive amount of shite, knock yourself out getting excited by it all. People are already starting to ignore him.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    He wants to reopen Alcatraz.... It would take 1-2 years to assess and plan all the fixes and construction required let alone actually doing all of it to the point it could be reopened as a functioning prison. Also it's a very popular tourist destination currently so all the direct and indirect jobs there will be wiped out… so much winning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    It's opening up the trade war globally to include services, even if somewhat indirectly. The US has a massive surplus in services and so is the vulnerable party if things continue to go south and they implement the planned tariffs after the delay.

    As far as filming in LA goes, if it's really so much cheaper in other countries, then it's just going to make movies more expensive and thus more risky to make. Do you risk more money and produce it in America, or do you produce elsewhere and let consumers pay the tariff? Like, if the costs to produce in America are too high now, it will become even more expensive if everyone is trying to do it.

    The bigger picture here is if it leads to things like gaming. Games are made all over the world. Would America start tariffing games 100% if they not made entirely in the US?

    Why am I, a normal person, capably of putting more thought into this than the Presidential Administration. He has a meeting with Jon Voight, who suggested tax breaks, and instead went for tariffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The solution is probably the US offering tax breaks for productions. Most US shows seem to be generally made in Canada for example and just tend to pretend they're in the US.

    US states have done similar incentives and they've worked btw. Eg Ironman 2/3 and the hunger games were filmed in North Carolina due to similar schemes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    On what basis do you decide if he is being serious or not?

    And don't you think a politician, POTUS even more so, should not be simply making up rubbish for laughs?

    He wants to be treated with the respect his office deserves, he should treat it with the same respect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Also if I'm reading it right, a Spanish movie faces tariffs when it gets released in the US?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,722 ✭✭✭yagan


    He'll make suits mandatory next after a weekend of watching 1930s movies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I'm sure one reason for opening Alcatraz may be sticking it to California and San Francisco in particular. Anything to hurt the tourist industry in that Liberal hellhole.😁



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    It should not be necessary to 'take a joke' from the President of the United States of America, there is usually dignity and diplomacy in the role of any head of state, though of course that is very easy to forget under the current US administration.

    Neither he nor his followers are aware that what he says should be assumed to be heard by both adversaries and allies and interpreted by people of different cultures and languages and is part of the soft influence of the country that he serves. Serves, not rules or controls.

    Of course the damage is done now; there is no respect for him and by extension, the country. Apart from his cult followers no-one believes anything he says, yet everyone is aware of how much damage his vindictive, paranoid, senile rambling is doing. We are past 'he wants to be a dictator', he is already acting like one, making up new rules about anything that occurs to him, ignoring and trying to dismantle the 'checks and balances', having his hand-picked cabinet of syncophants telling him how wonderful he is, generally trashing the country and disturbing the balance of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,721 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Having said all that ^^^, I do wonder if, 80 years after the last world war, the world is ready for another shake up, and this is it. Complacency is the enemy of progress, and the US had its share of complacency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I was startled back in the day to discover that the USA I thought I was seeing in most of the episodes of the 'x-Files' was really Canada.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The EU should heavily invest in enterprise, it's an ideal time for it IMHO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    The Irish economy will collapse without Rob Lowe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭Field east


    Is his thought process now to ‘ house’ all those ‘criminals’ in Alcatraz instead of sending them ‘home’ to El SAlvador.
    And why is it necessary now to consider the development of Alcatraz to service as a prison again when there is a lot of prison space being freed up by sending criminals back ‘home ?
    The mind boggles again?

    Or is all of this To ‘Flood the Zone’ with Sh—-y/ completely off the wall statements so as to get us all talking/ hyped up so the real issues are not discussed or even tabled?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,722 ✭✭✭yagan


    What are the real issues?

    They don't want to work in nursing homes and crop harvesting so deporting irregular immigration that's been normal since WWII isn't going to magic a solution.

    I've heard young Irish look down on agri, the trades and care work as immigrant jobs.

    I'm sure we'll have our entitlement politics as some stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    it’s more flood the zone… Israel says they are going to complete their genocide my taking Gaza and their attack on a ship with foreign aid should be the number one story… instead Trump is sucking up all the attention with his nonsense.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's not really that, though. The real issues IMO are climate change, increasing wealth inequality, unrepresentative politics, vast amounts of political and economic power in the hands of unaccountable corporations and the media which has gone from holding power to account to getting in bed with it. These things are either never discussed or only ever discussed in a superficial manner.

    Look at birth rates. We've taken the hardest, most expensive thing people do and made it a preserve for the wealthy or those in the middle class and then we act surprised when birth rates plummet. Remember when Visa and Mastercard threatened to boycott OnlyFans. We've allowed two companies the power to delete any website or business and nobody says a single word.

    As for agricultural jobs, they're sh*t. I know because my childhood was spent working on a farm. It's backbreaking work for virtually nothing with a high risk of injury. The question isn't why people aren't doing it, it's why those who do bother at all. Common sense is not the same as entitlement.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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