Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Rant - Maybe a controversial opinion but audible home alarms should be banned

  • 02-05-2025 09:35AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭


    This is as much a rant as it is an opinion, but I am sick of useless home alarms constantly going off in my locality. The alarm chime offers no level of security as 99.9% of triggers are false alarms. If you want an alarm it should just be monitored.

    I'm a parent of a child with severe autism and lately alarms are going off multiple time per day. This causes him to have complete meltdowns. Added to the fact that alarms are permitted by law to go off unactioned for 15 bloody minutes before having to auto switch off. This is ridiculous. Even we we are not to ban alarms they upper limit should be no more than a minute.

    Am I alone in this opinion?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Agreed, a minute or even 15 seconds is enough to notify neighbours that the alarm was tripped. After 5 minutes, I want to send a brick to the annoying alarm bell myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Banzai600


    i completely empathise with you , we've a neighbours close by. and around the the corner, theirs go off all sorts of hours. i approached one of them, nicely, and he shrugged his shoulders fobbed me off, it got heated so i left. He's a ***ng ass*le, going on a couple of yrs. chances are its one of the sensors is gone, just get it replaced.

    post a letter anonymously ? and tell them a few neighbours are having issue and they need to fix it.

    same with ppl with dogs barking in gardens non stop…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭youtheman


    I was only speaking to a relation recently about house alarms (as we both had the same sales guy call to the door). I said to my cousin "An alarm is only as good as the contingency you put in place for dealing it when it activates". Reminds me years ago my neighbor's alarms went off and the cops were there within a few minutes (false alarm). Same happened a week later and they never turned up. Same again a week later and I was up a ladder with a hammer trying to remove it from the wall. In fact I would have helped a burglar ransack his place I was so pi55ed off. So he's alarm was essentially useless !.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Can't understand why someone would not have the self awareness to at least acknowledge that they are causing an issue. Ours started to malfunction so we just stopped setting it until fixed.

    The issue for me is it's not always one single property going off. It's rampant. They are also so loud that they can be audibly heard for quite a distance. So if you live in a built up area it's actually quite difficult to pin point where it's coming from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Banzai600


    we've two houses not on our row as such but just around the corner, and they go off at will. sometimes at night when they are both in the houses,yet they allow it to persist.

    ppl nowadays regardless of who they are are just selfish, they know damn well, but have zero regard for others or the hassle they cause.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Modern intrusion systems should no longer require an external siren to function. A good system will have a 24/7 monitoring station attached that can send a security van out to check a triggered intrusion alarm. An internal siren might help frighten off intruders, but an external siren is a bit a legacy feature that assumes that surrounding neigbours will check in on the property and call someone if needs be.

    In practice, that's not what happens. Many will either ignore the alarm as best they can, or possibly if annoyed enough (and have their number) will call the house owner to shut off their alarm. Unattented external sirens actually work against home security in the sense that if an external siren is blaring for hours without stop, then it's a clear indication that no-one is home and that the house might be empty for the rest of the day. An ideal time to break in while glassbreak sounds will be masked by the siren.

    So yea, by all means do away with external sirens. Maybe keep a strobe indicator on the alarm box to make it easier for security vans to find the right house, but otherwise keep the alarms silent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Great post and well put. As you say endless sirens going off only perpetuates the cry wolf effect of alarms. Ironic that the proliferation of these type of alarm systems is counterproductive to some security in general.



  • Posts: 697 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not a bit controversial. It's fking infuriating when they go off. Usually a neighbour's cat jumping on the window while they're away on holidays. This time of year is the start of it. 🙄

    Ditto car alarms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Just to touch on neighbours dogs barking non-stop in the garden. We just moved into a new house and we don't know the neighbours outside of saying hello.

    Their dog is a nuisance, we cannot go in the garden without the it barking non-stop. They seem oblivious to this. Any suggestions as to how to handle this without upsetting our new neighbours?

    Post edited by Appletart Upsetter on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    The alarms are only a good choice if they are directly connected to the police or some security service. The noise doesn't put anybody off anymore.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Tork


    I wonder will alarms start to die out now that people are starting to get doorbell cameras?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    I remember growing up there were neighbours that would head away for a 2 week sun holiday and the alarm would be going off the entire 2 weeks, night and day. People were a lot more peaceful then, it would last about 24 hours now before the siren would be ripped clean off the wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,399 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Theres an EU regulation set at 15 minute limits, its an insane rule.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 857 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    If I was a burglar I wouldn't waste any of my energy casing properties before I broke in. I would wander through an estate and keep an ear out for alarms. If I heard an alarm sounding for more than a minute or two I would rub my little hands with glee and say something like, "Time to get yer burglin' under way, there be unguarded booty in that thar house!" (I would definitely talk like a pirate if I was a burglar.) I'd saunter in without a care in the world because I would know for certain that nobody is home and nobody is coming to do anything about the alarm.

    Nobody near me has an alarm but I used to live on a small estate where one or two houses were frequent offenders. I never saw the point of them. If the owners were away, what exactly did they think was going to happen when the alarm went off? Was I expected to go and sternly demand that the burglars stop burgling? Because that actually happened was that I turned over in my safe, snug little bed where there were no criminals and tried to go back to sleep, instead of venturing off in my pajamas to a house where there might be actual criminals.

    Editing to add… one of my neighbours works for a security company that installs alarms. She doesn't have an alarm on her house because she knows how pointless they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,399 ✭✭✭Photobox


    Same here. The house next door to us has new tenants. They have two dogs and they bark every time I go out the back. They bark non stop when they are left in the house on their own, the house attached to them on the other side must be cracking up. Would be interested too how to handle this!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    https://amzn.eu/d/7Nug27l

    Not sure how ethical this might be! But it might be a solution if it continues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭plodder


    What's the argument against this? I can't see it. External sirens should be banned. There's hardly any serious issue with disconnecting them from existing systems …..

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,399 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    I'd have thought they acted as a form of advertising for alarms companies but now they would put people off the companies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,366 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    At the same time if there were burglars in the neighbourhood, you'd want to know. And if the alarm goes off across the road, you'd look outside. If you saw someone tampering, you'd notice.

    I remember renting a house, in college, decades ago. There was a heatwave. A neighbours alarm went off. And it kept going for days. Because of the heatwave we had windows open. It was a nightmare.

    Another time, in the house we were in the alarm went off and wouldn't switch off. We figured a battery was dying or something. It was a Sunday and eventually a housemate of mine just started pulling wires out. This was after about 5-6 hours. I was working nights at the time and was trying to sleep. The wires worked and we figured whoever replaced the battery would be able to reconnect the wires.

    There does need to be a timer on them to stop them going on and on. But a few minutes should be fine. I'd even say that there should be internal and external speakers and the internal ones go off first with a delay on the external ones so that the residents have a chance to switch off a false alarm. And probably should be able to do it via app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,415 ✭✭✭Rawr


    The branded sirenbox itself is a form of advertsing, but surprisingly is also a large part of the "security theater" that is designed to deter opportunistic burglars. Branded window stickers, and a branded alarmbox with functioning signal lights will discourage all but the most commited intruders. That alone is nearly half of the security solution before we even start thinking about alarm triggers. A possible intruder will weigh the risk of breaking-in against something like a functioning alarm, and branded equipment on the house will work into that mental calcluation. Can be easier to move on to another house that has no alarm box, or something that appears dated / out of service.

    The archaic part of all of this is the external siren that's housed inside that branded alarm box. As I mentioned before, the strobe indicator lights will be useful to direct security vans to the right house, but the unending siren sound is little more than noise pollution at this stage. The monitoring station would have gotten the alarm signal, the siren isn't nessisary and frankly should be banned in residential areas.



  • Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement