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This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭Bawnmore




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭mr chips


    A friend of mine who lives in Belfast is going to see that car this afternoon. One thing is there's no mention in the ad of whether the car has the 64kWh or 39kWh battery. I'm pretty sure there's a way to check that on the car itself, rather than just asking the salesperson, but can't remember what that might be - is it the first digits of the VIN or something like that? Or will it be printed on a door pillar/under the bonnet etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,797 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Re: dealers not taking EV trade ins or giving "derisory" offers, I was watching this video from a UK dealer regarding selling a 3 year old Enyaq to the trade I'm don't know how accurate this is but it seems a plausible explanation rather than just lambasting car dealers for being greedy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,183 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    To be clear I wasn't lambasting anyone, just documenting my own anecdotal experience.

    If I can't trade in I can't buy a new car, so that dealer lost the sale. If (and I havent watched the video) they would prefer that than taking an EV in then so be it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,797 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    The gist of the video is that the leasing/finance companies projections for depreciation were too low and as a result they are now looking to claw that back from new customers which is affecting the used car market and trade ins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    This below might work…… but if he requests the dealer to have it fully charged… and on arrival the guess-o-meter shows something in the region of 260-300 miles, then it'll be a 64kWh. I'd expect a 39kWh to show a fully charged range of less than 200.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭mr chips




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,168 ✭✭✭User1998


    The details will be on the V5 regardless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭mr chips


    Had a chat with my friend explaining all that and a bit more. She's a 70 year old woman who has never driven an EV before, but was quite taken with the couple of short spins she had in our eNiro and at the fact that we've been able to do a few long trips without incident - it goes against the FUD stuff she'd been drip-fed before. "But how did you manage to charge when you weren't at home? I thought that was really hard, finding a charger." "I wouldn't like to be too slow pulling out of the junction where I live going onto the main road, is there enough power to nip into a gap or is it like a milk float?" "What do you do once the battery fails?"

    She regularly drives the 60 miles/100km between Belfast and Ballycastle, sometimes twice a week (and currently spends over £100 a month on diesel), but even the smaller battery Kona would suit her fine for that. She has talked about wanting to do a few more trips around the country now that she's retired, maybe 5 or 6 times a year, so I did warn her that if she's planning on buying this Kona then it would need to be rapid-charged a bit more often on those trips and that my own preference would still be the bigger battery version for that reason. But she didn't mind that at all once I explained that there are multiple charging hubs on the motorways she'd be using (A1, M1, M6, M7, M8) and that she should be able to charge at or near her destination easily enough, even if it might take 30-45 minutes at a time - she'd rather stop 2 or 3 times on a trip where I might only stop once. She's on her way to see the Kona now, so I'll see how she gets on!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,833 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    That's not quite the point he was making. The finance companies were putting such high depreciation on the car that the payments were going to be excessively high. The current value of the 3 year old Enyaq was £28k, they were then dropping that to £8k after another 3 years.

    This kind of high depreciation was likely to continue in the UK as there would be high volumes of EVs coming off mobility schemes and company plans very soon and flooding the market.

    Will be interesting to see how that develops, but it clearly is a UK thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭Bawnmore


    https://www.adverts.ie/car/mg/zs/2020-mg-zs-ev-exclusive-44-5kwh/33003327

    Here for anyone interested. Posting on request from OP as they're having some trouble posting the link. They'd take 14k from someone on boards if interested, but will be going for trade in in the near term if no interest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭maddness


    The only cars selling used are the cheap ones. It’s not just an ev issue either, ice cars are not selling well either. The market is still ridiculously inflated and every car selling platform is full of cars not selling unless they are cheap. I keep a good eye on the market and change cars very frequently and have about 50 cars saved on DoneDeal. I check the list every week and more often than not nothing has sold. I actually think it’s a great time to buy a used ev, there are plenty for sale that have lost 50% of their value and are now worth buying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭TerrieBootson


    I would replace "cheap" with realistic. Used cars have been overpriced for a while now. Basically, if it's priced right, it will sell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭Bigmac1euro


    Thanks Bawnmore you're a gent- I've figured out the bug which was stopping me from posting.

    A few pages back I purchased a tesla from a garage and traded in the MG. The Tesla has had some minor issues and the garage have been frustratingly slow at getting back so I've pulled the plug as too many red flags with the car. I'm expected to get the MG back this week and willing to let it go for 14k to someone here if they are interested.

    This makes it the cheapest MG ZS EV in southern Ireland by about 3k. The car itself is in perfect condition and heres the ad from the garage I'm having trouble with. I want to move quick on this as I have potentially another Tesla lined up and I can't be without a car. The garage have agreed to swap the car back with me and I am just waiting on final confirmation since this morning.

    https://www.holdenmotorcompany.ie/car-details/?4024891=2020%20MG%20ZS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭mr chips


    My friend has bought that Kona! 😃 Apparently it had been a little-used mobility car, which even still makes me wonder how the miles ended up being so low, averaging out at around 3 miles a week - maybe there was a stage when the previous owner didn't get any use out of it at all for a while due to health reasons, or something like that. Anyway, she was able to trade in her 7 or 8 year old Renault, either a Kadjar or a Captur (whichever the smaller one is?), which she said herself wasn't in the best of nick, for £5600, bringing the cost to change down below £10k. Last month a dealer only offered her something like £3400 for the Renault, so even with the Kona being the smaller battery version I still think that's a serious bargain she has bagged! Thanks again @Exiled Rebel for putting it up - another nail in the ICE coffin …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭The Mist


    Hey all, sorry for putting in my own car but at 17k this is an absolute bargain I think.

    Probably cheapest model s facelift with some warranty left in the history of boards :)

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/tesla-model-s-75-facelift-with-warranty/39453973

    I don't even need a quick sale at this point, just need someone that will commit to buy it so that I can take my new car due tomorrow with confidence that I'll have my car sold in the near future.

    Any questions, let me know! Ideally contact me on Whatsapp, my number is on the ad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    My pleasure.

    Those cars were about £35k new.

    Managing to offload an old Renault and bagging an EV with 200 mile range with less than 1k miles on the clock for sub £10k is a bargain in my book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    I was looking at a Born VZ recently and both Cupra Wexford and George Corbett will happily take my current Born as a trade in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    There was a comment above where a poster thought it was trading a Cupra into another marque's garage, but actually it's trading a Born back into a Cupra dealership that doesn't want to know?

    I'd be moving dealers pretty damn fast - that's a bit cheeky to be honest - they're happy to del with you 12 months back on a new car but now don't want to know? C'mon.

    If it's any help, Brady's Cupra in Castleknock in Dublin seems to be a sales outfit you can trust, and they have a healthy used Born stock that regularly turns over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,565 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “ice cars are not selling well either.”

    I recently dipped into the ICE market for a few days as a seller of a bangeromic - the car I was selling was very reasonably priced and sold in days - equivalents are still there 2 months later asking nearly 1500 more than I was asking - I’m not surprised some cars aren’t selling- asking prices in many cases have no rhyme or reason



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,168 ✭✭✭User1998


    Yeah as a regular seller of petrol/diesel cars in the €7000 to €15000 price bracket, the market is pretty much as good as its ever been. Obviously Covid times were crazy but generally speaking it’s still fairly busy out there.

    That being said, I did manage to sell a €19k EV privately the other day within about 2 weeks so that says something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I kept mine in the end but flirted with trading my Born back into McCoys where I bought it, firstly against a Jag ipace they had and then a kia ev6 they had and offers both times were pretty good and had me thinking 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭6.5x55 seller ammo


    just to add - I also traded in my Cupra Born recently with no issue and a higher price than expected - though was into a Cupra garage for a new Cupra Tavascan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    €7450 for 2019 Kona, Rear corner damage

    https://www.donedeal.ie/view/38891146



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭blackwrx


    hyundai-ioniq-premium-100kw-38kwh2022

    Looks like good value if the VRT is zero



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,859 ✭✭✭joe1303l




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭blackwrx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blobert


    Often better value up north for these, this one is over a grand less from a garage with lower mileage.

    I got a 2021 Tekna with 50k km for my wife for <13k last year when it was just over 3 years old.

    EDIT: Just realised yours is the 60kwh battery, that's a decent price for one!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭oinkely


    That's as good a deal as i've seen on the 62kw version. I picked up one this time last year but with half leather seats and a towbar and it's a brilliant car. I like the look of the full leather and lighter interior in that one and would be tempted to buy it and sell mine but the towbar is really handy for the bike rack and gets used almost daily.

    I've done a 320km round trip from kilcoole to kilkenny and got home with 10% left in the battery - admittedly limiting the speeds to 100km or less most of the time.



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