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Conor McGregor Megathread *Mod Warning in OP Updated 20th April*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,432 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The Trump / Putin poster has been shown from different angles yesterday, so it does not appear to have been AI generated (presumably press photographers were present at the march, so the media are fairly sure of what they are publishing - they'd have to be a right bunch of eejits to publish an AI generated photo and try and pass it off as real).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭BagofWeed


    You are claiming that I'm claiming that, not me. He suits the govt though, having a politically unpopular figure as a sort of opposition spokesman/leader is a great way to make the existing govt seem better or more in line with the average person. These far righters helped split the vote ensuring SF never got in in the last election and who came out in top, FF FG.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭MrRigsby


    By mentioning Mattress Mick (for some bizarre reason ) you just confirmed how ridiculous and undemocratic it is to just exclude random people because they don’t fit your idea of what a president looks like . Mick is a business man who does quite a lot for charity. Just like Conor . Mick doesn’t have the controversial social life and profile that Conor does . If people don’t like them they can vote for someone else but they should have a choice . We saw in the recent US election what happens when candidates are very limited . It wasn’t so much people wanting Trump in many cases . It was more to do with them not wanting Harris . A diverse range of candidates giving voters a choice is healthy. The only Irish citizens who should be ineligible to stand are convicted criminals .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭MrRigsby


    so you think it’s ok for the large established parties who already manipulate the inherently corrupt vote transfer system to have a stranglehold on the presidency as well ? Absolute nonsense. Should be a first part the post system in all elections. Open to anyone entitled to vote .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,581 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    McGregors legal woes continue- another civil sexual assault trial potentially awaits


    https://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/summon-servers-on-hunt-for-conor-mcgregor-over-miami-restroom-sexual-battery-allegations/a1924917412.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Oh I'm not excluding anyone, the Irish constitution is.. The rules are clear as to who can stand for President, have you read them? It is possible for you to change that if you don't like it, in a democratic country such as Ireland you can put yourself forward for election to the Dail and build a campaign to change the rules?

    My examples mean that the nominations are not based on populism ideals and opinions which is what CMCG seems to be pushing for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Vote transfer is not inherently corrupt, it’s the most accurate way of determining the wishes of the electorate. FPTP is incredibly divisive as you can have someone that 49% of people categorically do not want elected to power. Ranked voting gives a clear picture of how someone feels about all candidates.

    And as for the presidential election, McGregor is free to run, but he needs to convince our elected representatives that he would be able to do the job properly. And as I’ve said, this isn’t something used by the government to hand pick their own candidate - we’ve had celebrities and businessmen on the ballot before.

    There’s an opinion with the far right that any sort of rules or checks are somehow anti-democratic as it only serves to benefit the ruling class, when the opposite is true. Democracy needs to be protected, and removing laws, rules and safeguards only opens the process up to corruption.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    Anything that gets Michael Martin and Simon Harris worried ,I am all for!

    Eire abu



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭randd1


    The only Irish citizens who should be ineligible to stand are convicted criminals

    Wouldn't that rule out McGregor? I mean, doesn't he have convictions for assault and public order? I know he has a rake of road traffic offences as well, one where he was put off the road for two years and given a suspended sentence.

    Of course he was held liable civilly for rape, but he wasn't convicted for that.

    And that's just in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,581 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    That and the human equivalent of Boaty McBoatface getting “elected” through a viral social media campaign - we’ve already sent Dustin to Eurovision so it’s not like such a thing couldn’t happen - “great gas altogether” until Ireland is viewed as a complete train wreck of a country and foreign investment and jobs disappear overnight - I believe that the office of the Irish president is a role that should encourage respect - it’s our personification of how we want to be seen on the world stage - I know some don’t like Higgins but he’s certainly represented Ireland well enough



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Welcome, new poster who's "concerned about democracy".

    Can you show a) how the vote transfer system is "inherently corrupt" and b) how the established parties manipulate it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The thing is we always get a pretty large selection of candidates so they absolutely are diverse. I don't think we need diverse to the point of including a rapist and cokehead though. So no, we don't need a clown show election and I've not seen any particular unrest at the fact McGregor won't be on the ballot.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,350 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    A quick look at your previous posts shows that you support mcg. So can you tell us of one occasion where he displayed an understanding of the role of President?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    How many were at this march? 3,000? How many were involved in the Dublin riots? 2,000? 3,000? How many votes did the 3 neo Nazi parties get in the general election 10,000?

    It is all the same small, loud group of racist criminal scum and McGregor is just the latest piece of filth to attract the flies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    Yes, the rapist was criminally convicted for sucker punching someone who refused to drink his rancid whiskey. Such a brave man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    The Russian bot farms probably don’t see us as significant enough to concentrate time effort and resources in . Hence we still mostly get normal pre 2016 politics in this country. Must be a sickener for the far right nut jobs here. Doesn’t mean the danger is not there.
    it wouldn’t take much to sway elections here.
    remember one Pat Kenny frontline debate swayed the 2011 election in Michael d’s favour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,485 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    First past the post is more democratic? Really? The UK might be the most well known example of first past the post use, do you know how many of their governments in the past 100 years have been elected by a majority of the voters? Ill help you along, it was 1 government… in 100 years elected by a majority of voters..… yes that's super democratic. Look at their most recent election labour won 60% of the seats with 33% of the vote…. but keep telling us how FPtP is more democratic.

    The simple answer to your ignorance is the same for anyone who complains about PR/STV, they either don't understand it or don't like its results and to be honest the former usually leads to the latter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭Homelander


    I don't know how you can say PRSTV is corrupt or benefits large established parties. Without it we wouldn't have strong minority parties.

    The PRSTV system basically gives you a say on who you don't want in power as much as who you do want in power. It's a complex process compared to first past the post but it's way more reflective of the wishes of the voting population.

    The presidential thing, I also don't see it as remotely "corrupt" either, and don't understand how it could be.

    If McGregor cannot get the relatively meagre amount of nominations needed to run, that says a lot more about him than anything else.

    There's over 100 non-Government members in the Oireachtas. He needs 20 nominations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    So you will back a man a court found to be liable for rape, just because he 'worries' people?

    Some set of priorities you have there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I've seen that type of attitude so often. Blames the politicians for all their personal failings and claims little victories like "worrying" Micheal Martin and Simon Harris.

    It's always someone else's fault.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭seanin4711




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭downthemiddle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,599 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Just on this, would you vote for a paedophile if he also worried Martin & Harris?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    It's a bit odd. Hope the women in your life are ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Annd9


    Could you explain how this will work? Are you saying anyone who votes should be able to run for president?

    Imagine getting handed a ballot paper with 473 candidates to chose from. Not sure you thought this one out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    You have chosen the wrong politicians to be worried by McGregor, he is unlikely to rape either of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,139 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    are people really dumb enough to believe that McGregor gives a flying fook about immigration into Ireland?

    He has simply hijacked this populist cause to try to garner support and likes to deflect from what most decent people really view him as



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭TokTik


    Should we disregard anything FG say?? Since they were “happy” to endorse John McGahan??


    “Taoiseach Simon Harris has said he is happy for Senator John McGahon to seek the Fine Gael nomination to run in Louth“



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