Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

As the saying goes a picture does paint a thousand words.

Mod Edit: Warned for trolling

So you agree then that "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free" is a genocidal mantra? Yes? The same mantra that is universal at Leftist Nuremberg Rallies ehh … "pro Palestine protests"

Because background of that seems to be a fundamental hostility to Israel that takes no regard of its actions or politics, and is solely concerned with the demonisation of Israel and the pursuit of its total destruction - the world's only Jewish state and home of nearly half of the Jewish people.

Do you condemn the phrase "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free?"

Israel is taking land and killing civilians for their own benefit not for anyone else in the West. The rest of the world is against israels continued illegal occupation so to paint them as some how on our side is just wrong.

Unfortunately the rest of the world, the EU, UN and ICJ is of that opinion. I think only Israel and you are in support of what they are doing in occupying that land.

You're dead right - there are quite a few who have swallowed the Hasbara hook, line and sinker.

The whataboutery won't wash either.

Whataboutery is not much of a defence. But it is interesting that a genocidal mantra is OK as long as it is the right one. And that you seem to agree (at least it can be inferred) that Israel should be wiped off the map.

But to be clear, is "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free" a genocidal mantra?

Oh and I mention the Nuremberg Rallies because it is known that Hitler was a committed anti-Zionist. Here's dear old Adolf pictured with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. "From the River to the Sea …" is a term that would be agreed with by both, though "Palestine" as a concept would not be finalised until 1964.

You haven't answered my question, are you OK with - or participating in - calls for the total destruction of Israel? Including the genocidal call "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free?"

It is a simple question.

Israel is a terrorist state and a sick and depraved society that celebrates the slaughter of innocents

Two days ago in a response to your ramblings

"From the river to the sea" (Arabic: من النهر إلى البحر, romanized: min an-nahr ʾilā l-baḥr; Palestinian Arabic: من المية للمية, romanized: min il-ṃayye la-l-ṃayye, lit. 'from the water to the water')[1][2] is a political slogan that refers to the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea – an area historically known as Palestine, which was formerly British Mandatory Palestine,[3] and which today contain Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.[4][5] The phrase and its variations have been used both by Palestinian and Israeli politicians to mean that the area should consist of one state.

Feel free to point out all the posts that state that Israel should not exist.

And please do provide links to "The Western Left" demanding that Israel be wiped off the face of the Earth.

I've made my position very clear - I condemn all violence against innocent civilians. I condemn War Crimes and Genocide. I condemn Israel for murdering Palestinians by the hundreds every single day of this conflict. I condemn Hamas and Hezbollah and anyone else that murders innocent Israelis.

You seem to think you have some kind of "gotcha" but really, you don't.

Now, let's see your condemnation of Israel for murder.

I won't hold my breath.

Pro Israelis brought up "from the river to the sea" a long long time ago as a justification for the Israeli Genocide.

You have brought it up multiple times yourself in order to portray the Palestinians as wanting to wipe out Israel.

Israel is the only protagonist wiping anyone out. You also stated multiple times that if Israel was committing Genocide, they were doing a very poor job of it.

Presumably since Israel has murdered many more and with Ben-Gvir et al pushing the ethnic cleansing agenda, I'd imagine the delight in the improved performance. Murdering 15 medics in one go with some executed by a bullet at point blank range must be a gift.

Ahhh it's all coming together now.

I asked previously why are people supporting ethnic cleansing. It was a genuine question.

Hatred against Muslims? Militant empathy for Jewish history? It's all but confirmed now with that nutjob cartoon thanks, and with this ignorant, misinformed reply.

It is pure unadulterated extremist hatred driving this. The rest is all guff. These people don't care a jot about Jewish history and their plight. This is an antipathy to it. It's supporting killing Muslims out of what -fear?

A genuine characterization of this could be the IDF and Israeli politicians murdering poor marginalized civilian men women and children, with the US behind them holding up guns to the rest of the world, to democracy, to the UN, the ICC, the ICJ- including the many Jews in this world opposing this genocide.

The last I checked, Palestinians are in their own land, and Israel are bombing, starving invading, annexing and terrorising them, men women and children all. And these are the acts these people claim to be against. Logic and common sense thrown out the window for hatred.

It is amazing how this mirrors what the Nazi's did. Many German soldiers said the same '' we were just carrying out orders''. The Israelis learned a lot from the Germans of WW2. So similar.

I would just like to add that most Israeli or Jewish people don't hate Muslims or the religion of Islam.

They just dislike terrorist elements of that religion.

I just want Israel to exist, the hostages to be released and for no more innocent people on either side to be killed.

@tayto lover I can't quote your post directly on the phone, but a lot of American and European Jews would consider themselves as Israeli as well.