Liverpool FC Premier League Champions 24/25 - Talk /Gossip/Rumours

Man Utd are a shambles behind the scenes. Liverpool before Houllier/Benitez arrived would be a closer comparison.

Rick Parry used to head off to play golf during the summer transfer window, David Moores used to abdicate responsibility for making decisions so when Parry wasn't around no decisions were made. Roy Evans signed box to box midfielders like Oyvind Leonhardsen and Jason McAteer only to use them as wing backs because he didn't want to drop the not so dynamic duo of John Barnes and Jamie Redknapp. It was no surprise when teams used to slice through the midfield.

During his tenure, Houllier instilled a sense of professionalism amongst the players but there was still no connection between the academy and the first team. Steve Heighway refused to concede that the purpose of the academy system was to develop players that might one day play in the first team and Parry/Moores didn't want to get rid of him. Benitez had to wrestle control of the academy from Heighway and brought in staff that would implement a single vision across the academy teams. Prior to that the underage teams played what ever style their coaches wanted or believed was best for their group to win games.

Parry/Moores never grew the commercial side of the club. The one positive thing that Hicks and Gillette did during their tenure as owners of the club was hiring Ian Ayre as Chief Commercial Officer in 2007. That began the process of modernising the club's revenue model. We were 15-17 years behind Man Utd in terms of building the club's brand and commercial revenue.

Ayre understood the value of making decisions using data which is why he worked well with NESV/FSG. Being data lead is what enabled the club to grow and apart from the horse trading with Brendan Rodgers years, the club's transfers have been largely successful since 2010.

Man Utd can still crush every other team in the league commercially but they have a chasm to cross in terms of modernising the football side of their operation to catch up to those same teams. We've yet to see any sign that data led decisions are being made at the club, they have continued to just throw money at the problem. They went to great lengths to get Dan Ashworth from Newcastle, didn't consult with him on the decision to extend Erik ten Hag's contract only to sack him months later. Ashworth was sacked because he was opposed to Jim Ratcliffe's choice for the new manager, that's the sh!t show that Amorim walked into.

Christ....Oyvind Leonhardson…those were dark days alright

Amorim has a worse record than Hodgson, but the argument could be made that he inherited a group that play as individuals and not a team.

Hodgson inherited a squad with a real team spirit, which included Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Aurelio, Glen Johnson, Martin Kelly, Mascherano, Lucas, Gerrard, Babel, Kuyt and Torres.

Amorim would probably have gotten far more out of that group than Hodgson.

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My thinking exactly . A good coach will train the players he has not moan about the ones he doesn’t have . These are professional athletes who if told and practice what you want , they can do it .

He basically had a bit of a purple patch and was snapped up on that. A mid table premier League footballer at the time, that we pounced on. We kept signing those sorts of players under Evans and didn't get the top signings over the line. Clearly we weren't paying enough.

The people who brought the club back did an outstanding job in such a competitive world. The 90s showed it'll never just be handed to you, everything has to be right.

Someone, one day will get a hold of utd and do something with them but that person doesn't seem to be near the club at the moment.

We're about to win the league tomorrow yet the conversation is about that lot.

Who cares about Amorim and Utd, long may it continue with them being sh!t.

My apologies. 😀

Nunez has always got the support of the fans but he doesn't do himself any favours,obviously he knows he is out the door in the summer but this is poor form from him

In that case he has no business on social media and would be better advised to stay off it

Is Nunez talking about Southampton at home???

Why would you want bother getting into argument with trolls online when you're a famous footballer? What a waste of energy.

It's bad enough when you're not famous. 😂

A bit dramatic,no...we could lose our remaining five games,, arsenal lose the next three and we might be nervous they get a draw their last

Sorry,,had a few, you are correct , either way a bit dramatic,we need one point from a possible fifteen.

No worries. Also a 10 goal swing hope they don't have any player called Thomas in there team