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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,651 Rawr
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    Knowing how Donnie’s childish little mind works, he’d likely suggest the next Pope be American so that Vatican City can become the 51st State (or 52nd…or whatever numeral) and thus have religious authority over the 1 Billion-ish Catholics around the world. Thereafter he’d want to rename it The Church of America, because that’s pretty much the extent of his imagination.

    But yes, he’d somehow twist this into it being about him, because that’s pretty much him with everything-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,044 Tell me how
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    Maybe not that, but I wouldn't be surprised if the administration tried to influence the selection of the next one.

    They'd be a lot happier without someone talking nonsense about treating people with compassion and respect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,657 Igotadose
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    FWIW, there's an interesting summary of what just happened wrt SCOTUS voting 7-2 to block the latest round of send them to El Salvador. It seems that the applicants to the SCOTUS appealed to Alito, who might've dragged his heels on processing the request - giving time for the deportation to happen, doncha know. And SCOTUS said, effectively, we're ruling against you, Inquisitor Alito, so go ahead and write your dissent we don't care.

    From the article: "There are three remarkable aspects of the court’s decision. First, it acted with startling speed—so quickly, in fact, that it published the order before Alito could finish writing his dissent; he was forced to note only that a “statement” would “follow.” It is a major breach of protocol for the Supreme Court to publish an order or opinion before a dissenting justice finishes writing their opinion, one that reflects the profound urgency of the situation. Relatedly, awkward phrasing in court’s order may imply that Alito—who first received the plaintiffs’ request—failed to refer it to the full court, as is custom, compelling the other justices to rip the case away from him. No matter what, exactly, happened behind the scenes, it’s clear that a majority would not let Alito hold up speedy action. It also acted before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit had a chance to step in, 

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    before the Department of Justice had an opportunity to respond to the plaintiffs. These highly abnormal moves also reveal a desire to act fast."

    The article goes on to state the SCOTUS might finally be starting to not believe CFTrump's DOJ, too. About freakin' time.

    (https://archive.ph/cbWaZ)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    "Jesus didn't like illegals, I mean what are they hiding, right? Maybe he liked Mexicans, I don't know, are they really christian, who knows, right? Anyway I want Saint Peters, I think it would be great as a Caeser's Palace casino, so much marble and gold, I'd be a home, although I'd build a gold plated elevator to the dome, and passport checks at the door, you can't just let anyone in, they're all thieves, right?" etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,352 zell12
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    Is Trump a practicing Catholic?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,939 retalivity
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    If he can make a few dollars/political capital/soapbox material from it, then yes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    Jaysus, I just checked forex, the USD has now gone past $1.15 to the Euro.

    This will be good for reducing inflation in the Eurozone, but a weakening USD on top of the baseline 10% tariff is going to make everyday life in the US harder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 TheIrishGrover
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    "I wonder"... I WONDER???!!! Of course he'll make it about him. Front and centre. Pushing aside priests and genuine believers. He'll call for a "Less woke" pope.... You know, like an Old Testament pope.... (Yeah. I know).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    "just give me the hat, and that long stick thing. No one knows more about Poping than me, I was born to be pope,no one knows more about being the messiah than me. All those others are false messiahs. We all know the truth, it was the Mexicans that killed Jesus and now I'm announcing an american resurrection to the rightful place of gods chosen people, and Israelis of course because we need them to fulfil the rapture…." etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,818 ArmaniJeanss
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    Pope John Paul II funeral was attended by basically everyone. List of dignitaries at the state funeral of Pope John Paul II - Wikipedia

    John Paul I - not a single head of state though he only served for 30 days. His predecessor Paul VI, information is sketchy but seems there was only a handful of leaders there despite him being a long-serving Pope. It's referred to in this article about JPII's funeral. Bush, world dignitaries descend on Rome for papal funeral | Catholic News Agency

    So it seems somewhat arbitrary whether it's a big circus with 200 leaders and presidents, or a low-key affair. Not sure who decides (maybe the dead Pope's wishes?)



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,719 ancapailldorcha
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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,245 extra gravy
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    The death camps are up and running on home soil now. I'm sure his fan club here will be delighted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,889 aloyisious
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    I was curious about the hearing and the claim from Alito that the other side [DOJ] were not present to present their story. It does appear, from what's in Alito's published dissenting statement, that there were documents from the Govt side provided to the claimants advising them of the intent to deport them. Those DOJ documents, by themselves, would seem to me to be statements of evidence from the DOJ of the reasons and intent to deport the claimants good enough to convince the majority of the SCOTUS bench of the necessity to issue an immediate blocking order against the deportations proceeding, given the Admin argument in the prior occasion of a lower court's order against deportation "that the plane was in the air outside US territorial airspace" so we couldn't stop it AND the order was not in writing anyway.

    Edit: This excerpt from the Daily Mail, generally a media source more sided to Trump, about a result from the SCOTUS decision…

    Extraordinary footage has emerged showing busloads of Venezuelan detainees in the process of being deported before a stunning Supreme Court intervention. The buses, loaded with at least 28 migrants, were heading from ICE's Bluebonnet Detention Center to Abilene Airport on Friday, according to NBC. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement buses were closely followed by a motorcade of 18 squad cars from varying law enforcement agencies.

    The detainees - primarily Venezuelan - were driven back to the detention center after a bombshell Supreme Court ruling. Justice Samuel Alito (pictured), one of the nation's top ranking legal authorities, has since issued a fiery dissent to the decision - which forced the Trump administration to temporarily halt the deportation of any Venezuelans held in a northern Texas detention facility under an 18th-century wartime law. In his written ruling, Alito cited a government lawyer who insisted the administration had no intention of deporting anyone on Good Friday or Easter Saturday.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,889 aloyisious
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    Vance would probably be sent as he converted to the RC faith in August 2019, baptised and confirmed in Cincinnati, Ohio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,426 TheIrishGrover
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    Different times. Different optics. This will need to be on a scale of the queen's death. Not so much the mourning period but the funeral itself will be a big event, broadcast live and every western leader will be there and he will definitely sully the whole affair by talking about himself, blaming woke politics, saying the pope was too liberal, he (trump) won the 2020 elections. Will announce a temp lifting of tariffs on exports from Rome (indeed). Will say the pope was very nice man but mean to him when he said he wouldn't tell them to go for am American pope.

    Anyway, that's more of a conversation for other thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,424 astrofool
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    With the border, you do wonder how much would have been achieved under the bi-partisan agreement that trump got scared of.

    Would it basically be the same but without the illegal bits?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 briany
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    The rapid actions of the USSC should be viewed as a reaction to the conduct of the Trump administration who have acted on the principle that if you act quicker than the law can respond, then you stand a much better chance of getting away with stuff.

    This will be a vicious cycle - extreme actions by Trump, lead to extreme responses from the USSC which Trump can then use to further vilify the USSC in the eyes of his supporters until it hits the critical point that Trump just ignores what the USSC says, garnering wild applause from MAGA. The USSC will hold him in contempt, but literally nothing will happen to him, and that will essentially be the end of the USSC as we know it.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,926 Capt'n Midnight
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    The USSC voted 6-3 to give Trump immunity. That is the point where the USSC abandoned "checks and balances".

    Trump can pretty much try anything he wants and not even get a smack on the wrist. Look at how Johnson used just 3 of the 700+ members of the privy council to force the Queen to prorogue parliament, because they found a loophole and abused it.

    The six conservatives ruled that presidents and ex-presidents enjoy absolute immunity for exercising their core constitutional powers, including acting as commander in chief of the armed forces, and presumed immunity for their official acts.

    The three liberal justices dissented, characterizing the decision as a stark and dangerous expansion of presidential power that in effect places the nation’s chief executive above the law.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,926 Capt'n Midnight
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    Won't work. Trump is 25 years older than Obama.

    Or run as Vice President and have a puppet win and then pull the strings.

    A bit far fetched in the US but consolidating power in another role and have a token president is done elsewhere. Stalin was only the General Secretary of the Communist Party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,657 Igotadose
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    If you read the article I linked, apparently the DOJ documents, in English only, were provided to the immigrants and not their attorneys and basically said, "We're going to deport you, buh-bye." Plus, the immigrants didn't have a lot of notice.

    "The government sought to evade this order <not to deport> by busing the migrants into the Northern District of Texas, where the restraining order would not apply. It then gave these migrants “notices,” in English only, declaring that they would be deported immediately, without stating that they could contest their deportations in court. (Officials refused to give these notices, or any other information, to the migrants’ lawyers.) The government intended to fly them out of the country within 24 hours, according to court filings."

    GOP's degenerated from Judge shopping to District shopping now.

    Nasty fascist Pam Bondi DOJ activity, but hey, she's largely responsible for GWB and, subsequently, Trump. Evil hag.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,343 martingriff
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    Ah now a lot of them are children and teenagers



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,926 Capt'n Midnight
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    Would Trump have won without the catholic vote ?

    Paris is well worth a mass - attributed to Henry IV, 1593 though he ended religious wars with the Edict of Nantes whereas this lot seem to be doing the opposite with their treatment of minorities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,343 martingriff
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 Widdensushi
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    Russian agents are known for their use of poisons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 trashcan
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    Nah, the Pope just thought “Fckit, if this is the future I give up. I’m outta here.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,064 everlast75
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    "Or run as Vice President and have a puppet win and then pull the strings."

    Perfectly plausible. Straight from Putin's playbook

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,402 Wolf359f
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    Trump has immunity for official acts. You could argue that breaching the constitution is not an official act so he shouldn't be afforded immunity.

    I don't think it's as clear cut as he can shoot someone in times square and get away with it. He could declare said person an enemy combatant, have them deported abroad and then drop a bomb on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 Suckler
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    That's fake news - did you not hear about the border and the great success at the border, Biden/Harris the Csar/Hillary/Obama are all at fault for the border. Illegal aliens who are rapists, murders and wrecking communities etc. etc. Of course they find time to do all that when they aren't propping up a good chunk of casual labour and US agri……

    (Please don't mention Trump instructed GOP senators nefariously sink the the long negotiated border bill a year ago)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 poop emoji
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    Mod edit:

    post deleted.

    @poop emoji image/link dumps aren't allowed and this one was also in quite poor taste.

    Post edited by Irish Aris on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 yagan
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    Did Vance criticise him for not wearing a suit?



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