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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,881 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    He'd need 2/3's of congress and 3/4's of states to ratify any changes. That is never going to happen in what is close to a 50% split across party lines.

    But, he will look to circumvent it and if he has already put himself in a position where his supporters are telling him to ignore the constitution, then, that's where things could get interesting. And by interesting I mean crazy and illegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Field east


    I ment to add that the mid terms will tell us a lot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,231 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It was my dream to move there when I was in my early twenties. Since then, I've never even visited and don't think I ever will.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    But by using your own numbers and criteria, the vast majority of the reduction in apprehensions at the border happened under biden.

    Its a sad state to be in when you think trump failing again is somehow winning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,231 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Surely quality of life must be quite high given how rich it is and how many people want to move there. I'm in the UK where… stupid political choices have been made but somehow its appeal to immigrants remains stubbornly high.

    The big kicker for me was the annual leave thing but that's probably a small thing for a lot of people.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,769 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    I was fascinated by the United States in my forties and fifties.

    I managed several visits there and did many tours during the nineties and noughties.

    I very much enjoyed all my visits but I'm glad I did them then. I wouldn't even dream of going there now in the present climate. It feels like an alien country at present.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,112 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Trump is still faced by SCOTUS, hasn't managed to get his "Roland Friesler" in charge of it yet. He might succeed if the chair resigned from it instead of insisting the Senate and House force Trump to comply with the constitution. Johnson would have to send a clear message to those bodies that Trump will consign them to the scrapheap if they didn't stand with him against Trump. Letting Trump continue would be the end of the US as an independent entity and one bound to the latest manifestation of Ein Volk, Ein, Reich, Ein Fuhrer by way of a loyalty oath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Do you think those reported "encounters" and aprehensions include cases such as this -

    ?

    According to AZPM’s report, Hermosillo was visiting the Tucson area from Albuquerque, got lost without identification and was arrested by border patrol officials near its headquarters in Nogales. Hermosillo’s girlfriend’s family made numerous calls looking for him before they discovered he was being held at the Florence Correctional Center, a privately run Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) facility. After his arrest, the court docket shows, he was temporarily detained in the custody of the US marshals.

    After the family tracked him done, they provided officials with his birth certificate and social security card.

    “He did say he was a US citizen, but they didn’t believe him,” Hermosillo’s girlfriend’s aunt told AZPM. “I think they would have kept him. I think they would have, if they would have not got that information yesterday in the court, and gave that to Ice and the border patrol. He probably would have been deported already to Mexico.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    A terrible thought, but I did think about the Pope meeting JD Vance, and then just thinking '**** it'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭bluefinger


    Vance being the last politician to meet the pope calls to mind The Omen movies



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Apparently Vance's motorcade was in the Vatican for a total of 17 minutes.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,350 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Can I interest you in the Conspiracy Theories forum? 😂 I jest, please don't post it over there 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,842 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Republicans in the House and Senate are completely supplicant to Trump.

    It's like this - every party in any kind of democracy must become a reflection of its voter base in order to be electable, and since the Republican base has enabled Trump from almost day one of his 2016 presidency bid, so must the Republican parliamentary party. Doing otherwise just invites a primarying or death threats and probably both. For this reason, the fantasy of Republican representatives moving against Trump remains just that.

    And, frankly, waiting on the Republican party to do something about Trump is like Turkeys waiting for people to stop celebrating Christmas. It's a forlorn hope that just defers the actual kind of necessary action which needs to take place. If the US public who either voted against Trump or not for him took to the streets in consistent protest and organised things like general strikes, it may force change. It's definitely a better bet than waiting on spineless Republicans to stand against Trump, anyway.

    To the last point, a single party state ruled by an unaccountable Trump, in which all social liberalism/dissent is crushed seems to be exactly what MAGA wants. They'd be positively gleeful at the thought of all three branches coming directly under Trump's control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    Oh make no mistake I agree with you completely The Democrats made a complete mess of things and made it easier for Trump.

    Trump is to his credit a political juggernaut though, the likes we may never see again in our lives.

    From no political experience to go and win:

    2016: 62.9M votes

    2020: 74M votes

    2024: 77M votes

    First Republican to win popular vote since Bush after the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington in 2001.

    Only the second president to ever win two non consecutive elections since Grover in 1893.

    You may hate him his, policies and even his voter base but make no mistake this man is a juggernaut and deserves his flowers as a politician.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Not really a juggernaut when he lost in a "landslide" to biden.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    How soon before he insists that the next pope is American. By the end of the week of course but I predict by Thursday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mattyonthepatty


    If you say so chief, if you say so.

    Mod Edit: Warned for trolling

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    I don't need to say so. The figures speak for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Do you mean Tsar?

    I'm suspicious of someone over here spelling it Czar. I'd say you're either an American pretending to be Irish or someone Irish who consumes way too much American media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,112 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The MAGA way seems to be the "we need a strongman in charge of us" way. Shame that a nation [the US] born of the opposite view and intent should be swallowed up by the style of two other nations critically opposed to the style the US was born to.

    Shame that those who talked [during the last Trump impeachment trial] about the US being a nation of laws should mostly have been of the Democratic Party.

    It's good that there are public protest marches and events being held in US cities across the nation against Trump, regardless of the varied causes they espouse. One can only wish them well in their venture and hope that Trump is not allowed try a Lafayette Park manoeuvre against the protests. There would be only one outcome to that and that would be bloody.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,085 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    First of all do ms13 actually refer to themselves as ms13? Like the lads in dublin don't actually call themselves the kinnehan cartel 😀

    Another important fact is ms13 is an American gang not south American. They began in LA and only spread south after 90s deportations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭yagan


    I wonder if Trump will insist on making the popes funeral about himself. "Nobody loved the pope more than me, I'm actually super Catholic, no one is more Catholic than me, although that would American Catholic, which is the best Catholic, all other Catholics are losers.." etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,396 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Knowing how Donnie’s childish little mind works, he’d likely suggest the next Pope be American so that Vatican City can become the 51st State (or 52nd…or whatever numeral) and thus have religious authority over the 1 Billion-ish Catholics around the world. Thereafter he’d want to rename it The Church of America, because that’s pretty much the extent of his imagination.

    But yes, he’d somehow twist this into it being about him, because that’s pretty much him with everything-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,881 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Maybe not that, but I wouldn't be surprised if the administration tried to influence the selection of the next one.

    They'd be a lot happier without someone talking nonsense about treating people with compassion and respect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,389 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    FWIW, there's an interesting summary of what just happened wrt SCOTUS voting 7-2 to block the latest round of send them to El Salvador. It seems that the applicants to the SCOTUS appealed to Alito, who might've dragged his heels on processing the request - giving time for the deportation to happen, doncha know. And SCOTUS said, effectively, we're ruling against you, Inquisitor Alito, so go ahead and write your dissent we don't care.

    From the article: "There are three remarkable aspects of the court’s decision. First, it acted with startling speed—so quickly, in fact, that it published the order before Alito could finish writing his dissent; he was forced to note only that a “statement” would “follow.” It is a major breach of protocol for the Supreme Court to publish an order or opinion before a dissenting justice finishes writing their opinion, one that reflects the profound urgency of the situation. Relatedly, awkward phrasing in court’s order may imply that Alito—who first received the plaintiffs’ request—failed to refer it to the full court, as is custom, compelling the other justices to rip the case away from him. No matter what, exactly, happened behind the scenes, it’s clear that a majority would not let Alito hold up speedy action. It also acted before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit had a chance to step in, 

    and 

    before the Department of Justice had an opportunity to respond to the plaintiffs. These highly abnormal moves also reveal a desire to act fast."

    The article goes on to state the SCOTUS might finally be starting to not believe CFTrump's DOJ, too. About freakin' time.

    (https://archive.ph/cbWaZ)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭yagan


    "Jesus didn't like illegals, I mean what are they hiding, right? Maybe he liked Mexicans, I don't know, are they really christian, who knows, right? Anyway I want Saint Peters, I think it would be great as a Caeser's Palace casino, so much marble and gold, I'd be a home, although I'd build a gold plated elevator to the dome, and passport checks at the door, you can't just let anyone in, they're all thieves, right?" etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,448 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Is Trump a practicing Catholic?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    If he can make a few dollars/political capital/soapbox material from it, then yes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭yagan


    Jaysus, I just checked forex, the USD has now gone past $1.15 to the Euro.

    This will be good for reducing inflation in the Eurozone, but a weakening USD on top of the baseline 10% tariff is going to make everyday life in the US harder.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    "I wonder"... I WONDER???!!! Of course he'll make it about him. Front and centre. Pushing aside priests and genuine believers. He'll call for a "Less woke" pope.... You know, like an Old Testament pope.... (Yeah. I know).



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