Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

I didn't dismiss anything, I told you I am not on X and cannot read anything on it.

So you can take back the whole part where you made up something I didnt say.

You stated that a 2022 UNESCO report stated that globally 40% of refugees are illiterate. There is no such report and no such statistic.

You then applied that statistic to asylum seekers in the UK and Ireland. Firstly it was an alleged global figure so would have been incorrect. Secondly it's false information.

You yourself have admitted it above so I'm unsure why you're contesting it now.

The Government has signed a two year contract to use Dundrum House Hotel complex as an IPAS Accommodation Centre. Public Representatives in Tipperary were notified of the decision by email this afternoon by the Community Engagement Team in the Department of  Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth. Although the issue of Migration is to be moved to the Department of Justice the Government has not yet effected the transfer of responsibility.

What a sad sad day for Dundrum, my heart is broken. There's actually going to be more IPAS than Irish citizens in Dundrum, how fucked up is that.

Dundrum is such an idyllic area, in the middle of no where with really no amenities around but yet is expected to house mostly economic migrates coming from NI, it's sickening what this government is doing to rural Ireland. When did Irish Governments stop caring about rural Ireland? They are enabling the destruction of rural Ireland.

All comes back to greed and more greed, our only hope now is the court case in America, please god let this blight be stopped

Seems a bit mad. I could see myself as a student appearing with my broken French and no passport pretending to be from Algeria and applying for asylum to get free accommodation.

In fairness, my parents would have killed me so would never happen but surprised no Irish students haven't pulled that trick.

They are enabling the destruction of rural Ireland.

You seem to be suggesting that rural Ireland is being destroyed by having new people living there? That doesn't make much sense

Improving the infrastructure everywhere is a job for government that they are clearly lacking in.

What about private developers who build housing estates in small towns and villages all over the country? That brings a large amount of new people into the area also.

Although I will say the rollout of the transport in rural areas for the last few years has been fabulous for rural Ireland.

Bit more on Dundrum from a local Cllr Liam Browne

Further information about the contract signed for IPAS accommodation in Dundrum that we've been made aware of
The contract has been given to a company called "Utmasta", and is worth at a minimum, between 16 and 20 million euro
Utmasta are leasing Dundrum House, for the purposes of the contract
Utmasta didn't exist, before 9th of January 2025. It is a company formed in Spain, with one director, a Ms Ana Maria Fernandez Sanchez
She seems to be the sole director, and the value of the company, is 120 euros...
So basically, the Irish Government have signed a contract, worth 10s of millions, to a woman living in Spain, running a 3 month old company valued at 120 euro, who has no track record of ever running a hotel or direct provision centre
That is your tax money, going offshore..

This is so **** dodgy, a company setup soley for this purpose of an IPAS accommodation in Dundrum

How is this legal?

You're right. In many cases they're accompanied by other refugees who have been through the system and become naturalised European citizens. These traffickers provide and hold IDs, and they can stroll through electronic immigration gates no questions asked.

When the asylum seekers arrive, they have their finger prints and photo taken. The results of this don't necessarily come back straight away. Nonetheless a TAXI is paid for to their new accommodation. Remember that the next time you're trying to find parking at the airport or deal with our **** public transport system. A taxi just drops the randomer into town, off you head there lad, don't worry about the lack of ID, we'll soon sort you out with an Irish passport soon enough!

The taxi theme continues when they get driven around to their various IPO appointments. Doesn't matter where they are in the country. Few hundred euros from Galway to Mount St?! No bother. I'd love to know what the taxi bill is for IPs.

"Under the national planning framework, Cork is planned to be the fastest-growing city in Ireland over the next 20 years, with a population targeted to grow by between 50% and 60%."

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41613178.html

That's 200-250k more people to cork city in the next 20 years. With Irish birth rates plummeting it's safe to say the government is planning for this increase through immigration. So they will obviously continue to ignore the concerns of 75% of the population.

Good luck to any young bucks getting a house in 20 years. There's a lot of competition on the way.

it's safe to say the government is planning for this increase through immigration.

Any proof whatsoever of this? Or are we now all just to post whatever conspricay theories comes up in our heads with nothing to back it up?

500,000 adults living at home, who speak English, considering we have near unemployment you would say most are working and they can't buy a house.

But people coming here who with little to no English, will most likely end up in low paid jobs if they work and no family home to put away a deposit are going to all buy houses.

Nope. False figures you posted were re UNESCO.

You then posted links that don't work, and stated yourself that they don't work. And you ask me to verify figures that can't be seen. Do you detect a slight problem with this?

Correct my math was badly off. 3am by brain obviously doesn't function right. My views on immigration is legal, small levels of refugees so we can both afford it and look after them properly and a reasonable level of immigration that keeps ethnic Irish people in a healthy majority as to protect our culture. If immigration is going to remain crazily high measures need to be put in place that the hundreds of thousands of Irish either homeless or stuck with their parents get priority to housing.

This level of population growth is really dramatic. The health service in Cork is already inadequate, but going by this you'd need half as many hospital beds as what you have, just to stand still. Every school in Cork city would have to expand its numbers by 50% just to stand still. For every two houses in every estate in the city you'll need another one, not to deal with the housing crisis but to stop it getting worse.

If population continues to grow like this it will be a disaster for most working people. It'll be different for property investors of course.

As an aside, the Examiner story is written back to front. The important fact is way down the article, that Cork city is going to change dramatically with serious consequences for its people, in the coming years.

When you see this kind of stuff it's clear enough that some measures that haven't been popular in the past are needed.

Immigration has to be limited as much as possible. It just has to be, we can't cope with the numbers who have come already. We also need to incentivise remote working to stop cities gorowing too quickly. More measures need to be taken to promote rural housing also. Bizarre as it seems, there are swathes of many rural counties where the population is falling, even though there is a housing crisis and it is growing far too quickly in parts of those same counties.

Again the laissez faire approach of Governments to just about every demographic issue has failed dramatically and that approach will continue to fail.