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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I think it's done a fine job of saying what a lot of people have been saying for the last decade or so. He's a **** negotiator and business man. I wouldn't let him manage a fish tank...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    I think many people will end up opting to visit Canada instead, including the FX bargain hunters given that America's betrayal has damaged the Canadian dollar also. It ticks many of the same boxes without the potential immigration drama, while offering a bit of economic solidarity to people being put upon by a bunch of absolute ars*holes.

    Post edited by The Phantom Jipper on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,792 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    This happened to me before, had the Visa in the passport but not the accompanying piece of paper. Didn't seem important enough for me to think of bringing but they were adamant and took my bag off the plane and I had to rebook for the next day

    Ended up finding the form in my carry on bag so I had it! It was just far from my mind.

    Have entered over 40 times since (flights with & without preclearance, land crossing from Canada, land crossing from Mexico) and never any issues so it was just down as an admin error rather than a black mark I guess

    But I'm not in any rush back right now - I think we'll hear more of these stories



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭circadian


    Power on phone and laptop to go through them is a hard no from me. I'm aware that plenty of countries do this on entry but I get the impression that the US policy is currently more aggressive than most.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Field east


    And what about Russia/Putin and the Greek Orthodox Church????????????



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭poop emoji


    Just checked my employer policies

    Basically have to report this and work laptop or phone wiped asap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    They wanted to take both mine away behind the counter out of my possession. I refused as I told them they are not my property. They then said I'd need to power on their presence and a quick check would be done in my presence also. It's a touch screen laptop and they just tapped a few open windows at the moment. For the phone, I kept in my hand and they asked me to open up things. Was a quick cycle through things.

    As it was not outside my possession, my company have just made note of it. All I had open was hotel information, car rental site and a document with an agenda for the week.

    If they were private items, they probably would have taken off me. I'd say they are aware they can't take business ones away perhaps. Not sure of the rules. But not something I'm willing to take a chance on again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Well done for posting the experience and what happened- the more stories we get the more accurate a picture of just what exactly is happening at pre-clearance .

    In terms of some people mentioning relative quiet of the US boarding area, possibly the week before Easter is the calm before the storm- I imagine even if numbers are down slightly on previous years, the airport will be packed full of people flying to America



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,135 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I have been asked years ago in Dublin to power on laptop and phone to prove they were functional just before the gate. That’s about it. I had walked to gate area, there were no seats so I went to another area and that was deemed suspicious (I asked for reasoning).

    Was also checked by security in US as I waited at gate as they deemed I arrived too early so it was suspicious . Maybe they were bored. Had to use a pc terminal to scan my passport plus take my fingerprints on same terminal while they watched.

    Each time I was a lone traveler. Have been told you get flagged if flying to Israel as a lone traveler also.

    Watch the Aussie customs and they regularly check phones of people arriving once they get flagged for visa requirements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭amandstu


    If it was your own private phone (or your boss'es there would still be information about other people that might be confidential to them (they might be happy for you to hsve that information but not a third party)

    Have the police always had the power to go through people's phones even when they are not guilty or suspected of anything criminal?

    Have customs always had this power?

    Edit :and they can record all this data?



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yes, border police in many countries have long had broad power to do a lot of things police generally can't. There is nothing new about the powers, just perhaps the zealousness of their usage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's just more lies.

    Everything about them is a lie.

    America offshored it's business out to places like China & India 20+ years ago because they were greedy bastards, who didn't give a **** about the lives that were destroyed because of it, and now they're whining like little bitches because the places they outsourced to are enjoying the increased GDP because of it and the US is in the ha'penny place having to import stuff that they once made.

    Jesus, who knew?

    This idea that Trump, Lutnick and other MAGA twats are throwing around that China somehow took their manufacturing base is bullshit. You gave away your business and now you're crying.

    This crowd just keep lying and lying and I can't believe that there's nobody taking them to task on it. If ever a country needed a Jeremy Paxman figure, it's the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,680 ✭✭✭✭looksee




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    America offshored it's business out to places like China & India 20+ years ago because they were greedy bastards, who didn't give a **** about the lives that were destroyed because of it, and now they're whining like little bitches because the places they outsourced to are enjoying the increased GDP because of it and the US is in the ha'penny place having to import stuff that they once made.

    This makes it out like there was any kind of net suffering from what happened when there just wasn't. The US as a whole, US workers, foreign workers and foreign countries all benefitted.

    It's better to work in manufacturing than subsistence farming. But its better to work in services than in manufacturing. While I'm not suggesting there was much altruistic intent to it all, and while certain subsets of US Labour populations did obviously suffer, they are very much the outlier.

    There was nothing inherently wrong about the US "having to" import stuff. Particularly when they had a global network of allied partners. For areas it was of some concern elements like the CHiPs act were bring more high tech manufacturing back.

    It benefits literally nobody to have iPhones or textiles made in the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,701 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Explain that to Trump supporters.

    They're being spun a line that they're somehow being robbed because they dumped all their manufacturing onto countries that were willing to do it cheaper. Now the reality of importing goods is being used as a rallying cry for the stupid who think that they're going to be "protecting American jobs".

    Can't believe that there's still nearly 4 bloody years of this kind of nonsense to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,445 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I don't think Trump has had any crediblity for a long time — not even his fans pretend that anything he says is to be believed. What has taken a battering over the last couple of weeks is the credibility of the United States.

    Various Trump enablers have told themselves that they can profit from, or take pleasure in, his disruption and destruction, but they have believed or assumed that those around him will in the end restrain him from doing anything truly disastrous, or the famous checks and balances of the US political system will kick in. It's now clear that neither of those things are going to happen; that nobody may be able to save the US from Trump. When US government bonds are seen as more risky than Greek government bonds, you know the US has burned financial credibility in a way the markets would never before have imagined possible. That's not a loss of crediblity for Trump, but for the US, and even if Trump and the MAGA movement are removed from office, that degree of credibility will not easily be recovered. The markets will always price in the knowldge that, if the UK elected an obviously corrupt, incompetent and antidemocratic president like Trump before, they can do so again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    The problem is, there’s no strong voice or voices in America calling all of this out - the American people are getting one side of the story ie bring back American manufacturing - without highlighting the reasons why manufacturing left America many years ago -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,989 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Trump has effectively destroyed the reputation of the United States in record time.

    He basically destroyed existing contracts, like NAFTA exchanged that with his own agreement on his first presidency and upon the 2nd presidency he destroyed again, what he created in the frist presidency, bullies Canada into becoming the 51st state, bullies Greenland and Denmark, imposes tariffs and expects others to accept his "awesome deal".

    It's a bit of a mafia style protection racket.

    One should never foreget that Trump is a convicted convict who evaded sentencing or jail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,275 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    One notable aspect is that his regime is much more of a car crash than it was in 2017. Trump has surrounded himself with flunkies and sycophants, meaning he is far more out of control and a loose cannon than he was 8 years ago. Also, the MAGA crowd and media seem far more nuts than they were in 2017 - it's not even pretending to be a normal government and country any longer. The big loser is the US itself of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I kept waiting for him t get to the part where he says “Yes they crucified Jesus, just like they tried to cruciffy me. In fact, think of it, what they did to me in 2020 was worse in many ways. Nobody has ever seen an attempted crucifixion like it.”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I saw the clip of Mahers show where one of his guests tried to point out to him that he’d been played by Trump. Bill didn’t take it well 😂. (His audience applauded the guest btw 😁) He’s a pretend liberal, who may as well drop the pretence and go full MAGA now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭amandstu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,903 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Simon getting nervous, pharma tariffs must be imminent.

    RTE news : 'Inappropriate' for US to hit pharma amid talks - Harris

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0414/1507562-tariffs-european-commissioner/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭poop emoji


    Gulags in El Salvador

    Them checks and balances seem to be MIA



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I mean, I certainly wouldn't trust them. But its somewhat beside the point.

    It is essentially a voluntary search power you are giving them by trying to enter the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,027 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Apparently, firing attorneys who prosecuted Jan 6 rioters, pardoning the rioters isn't enough.

    They are now going to be eligible for refunds for fines paid!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,905 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I was thinking more of the American citizens whose data is on the entrants' phone.

    I wouldn't feel comfortable selling out Americans who were (or seemed to be) unhappy with their "government".

    No objection to be refused entry to another country if that is their wish.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,937 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Because its cheaper in the short term to use more toxic sh1te and they don't care about people who cant afford healthcare or insurance that will likely be impacted the most by the use of these chemicals



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