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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I can understand this completely, but it seems much more widespread in RTÉ. Civil Service always had had an exam for entry, again that not to say someone knew someone else who put them at the top of the list, or that as you say they already had family members in the Civil Service so the knew the exam existed, I was always surprise about how many people didn't know about civil service exams.

    IMO RTÉ themselves have a deep antipathy towards themselves and at the same time seem to think they are great, an internalized schadenfreude of some kind. Perhaps a few employees that let them know x isn't all that good every now and then might be a good thing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,237 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    IMO RTÉ themselves have a deep antipathy towards themselves

    ? I don't think I've ever heard an "RTE person" talking RTE down - usually the exact opposite

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,468 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    So how is Dee? Is she alive or dead? If its the former, is there any sign of her explaining her actions any time soon?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,237 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If the latter, can we stop her pension?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,468 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    That should be stopped anyway until she gives an account of herself



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Would she have access to that pension, she's about 55 AFAIK.

    I think it has been mentioned she is well, I got a reply from someone saying she was doing well, while she was spotted on a flight to Spain.

    Ditto Jim Jennings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,757 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Also spotted in Bantry out and about looking ok health wise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Irish MSM can get half a million photos of Matt Damon on his holidays here but they can't get a single photo of Dee out and about? Strange one that 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Google maps, street-view is not working inside St Anthony's Park



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    i do wonder the same myself…why does no reporter/photographer take a few photos and run a storey along the lines of "heres dee,looking in robust health after the fleas infested her jocks,when can we expect a few answers?" what are they all afraid of???


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants..you sir are the skidmark on the jocks of humanity!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    Yeah it is hard to understand how Dee Forbes hasn’t been door stepped.

    I suppose it’s a triple whammy. It’s not generally the done thing here. Ironically, I can only remember Charlie Bird doing it to a few of the 09 bankers after the crash.

    Two, even though she is no longer an “RTE head” going at her is digging up the RTE story again. Great for some mercenary journalist but let’s be honest it is a ginormous hand to bite in a local context.

    And thirdly, RTE (the biggest clog in Irish journalist) aren’t going to go near this themselves. In their eyes the storm has been weathered. We are now in RTE 2.0 world and “Dee and Ryan who??”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    You would think that a freelancer at least would have got a few snaps of her. Maybe they did but nobody wanted to buy them.

    I remember Vincent Brown doing it too. He was with a crowd of reporters standing outside an open gate and when he told them he was going down the drive to knock on the door they looked shocked. I would say you are right, RTE news will continue to avoid Dee like the plague, she could tapdance naked down O'Connell st and it would not even get a mention. Going after her would be like the snake eating it's own tail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    think ye are probably right…rte wont do it,dee and the other yoke are more then likely making "when can we come back" noises…yeah i think Charlie Bird and Vincent Browne are the only two i can think of doing it but there has to be even one freelance reporter that will do it..?or is it a career ending job?… there is surely a few photos of dee floating around on her "holidays" but like you say nobody wants them…mind you she does have a face on her like a bulldog after eating a wasp and licking pish off a nettle…


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants..you sir are the skidmark on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    There is a certain point even if you think you've been wronged you have to take a step back. Especially when you are trying to rehabilitate yourself and when you have almost all of the media, and many more, on your side.

    I'd said on other threads (that have been largely shut down any conversation on this topic) Tubs would most likely be back on RTÉ as a voiceover for some History Documentary at the end of the year, now, I'd be surprised if they will even allow an Independent producer give him that role.

    The next choice is VMTV, if they get a Doc from the CnaM's Sound and Vision Fund, but neither of the 2 given support in the latest round would support him as voice over. And then the only other choice is a spell as host presenter on TSOCS, which surely would be beneath him.

    I honestly though he'd keep quiet, and move on, and allow the rehabilitation take place, after all it seemed to be going so well.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/media/2025/04/19/ryan-tubridy-and-agent-noel-kelly-seek-rte-files-on-2023-crisis-at-a-cost-of-100000/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    This is very strange indeed, and seems very badly advised.

    To continue to antagonise and cost the company that you rely on most for your income after being a party to the scandal is astonishing. RTE should be telling Kelly and his clients to sling their collective hooks but yet they are still in bed together? This stinks even more than the scandal tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The question has to be does Tubs get Mary Lou on the Bookshelf or even the smaller party leaders, some new news other wise about radio interesting… it will be Times Radio I am guessing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,936 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Oh so this is where you can discuss the non-radio tubsidy news, is that right?

    I thought NKM was a 4d chess playing PR guru, suing the company you were fired from for dodgy underhand dealings is not a great look...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    A return to RTE for Tubridy seems unlikely now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Tubridy is on the big bucks in the UK dont you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    In the extremely unlikely event he did get MLMD on the bookshelf, I doubt it would be as controversial as Miriam O'Callaghan and Martin McGuinness on Prime Time. Not a hint of criticism ever from Ryan and when he thinks he's sailing close, he'll always row back!

    Hardly any reason for the other smaller party leaders to be hosted on his bookshelf. What use would this be to their party ratings anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No I don't expect MLMD to be on the Bookshelf, and if she was it would be pretty much the same type of chat as Micheal and Simon, but I just think some former boardster would go insane at the idea that she'd be on the show, and how wonderful it is to Micheal on the show and that they'd not watch the podcast or listen if MLMD was on the show.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    That's what I mean, they seem to be unable to criticize RTÉ but they are at the same time the very people who possibly rarely watch RTÉ, but will happily tell the world it is all good, and unironically "Nothing to see here".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    100,000 to do an FOI? That has to be a massive overestimate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ are taking legal advice, its not a straight forward FoI from what I gather but perhaps someone can confirm that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Legal advice is separate issue. You are entitled to certain documentation under FOI no need for legal input. If however there are issues raised by releasing this documentation they may take legal advice to defend their stance. Misleading to say the FOI costs that much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Just coming back to the nepotism of RTÉ and I am not saying that Todd Andrews ever helped his grandson in achieving anything at RTÉ but … if you read even the introduction to Wasters by Shane Ross and Nick Webb you will see the power that the Chairmen and board members of semi-state bodies wielded … so it might not come as a surprise if a small word was put in for Tubs from a staunch FF supporter. Though Todd died in 1985 so I'd question this idea, perhaps his mother side was influential with the power that be, I am not sure when Poporama aired on radio.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    had a WTAF moment earlier listening to Tubridy on Q102.

    During the first break there was an ad for a podcast from someone I never heard of and whose name I’ve already forgotten…..but the podcast is “sponsored by the RTÉ Player” despite mentioning it’s an ONIC. Production at least twice and available on ONIC and other streaming platforms etc. So we now have RTÉ the state funded broadcaster using our money to sponsor a podcast on a rival network. You couldn’t make this up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,687 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Im going to go on a bit of a rant about the TV license, but bear with me.

    It originally came in in 1961. Back then, not everyone had a TV. In fact, in the movie Back to the Future in 1955, it's said "He's teasing you, no-one has two television sets!".

    In 2025, most people have at least one, and there are lots of homes with a family of 4, that have 4+ tvs. Sitting room, and both bedrooms.

    In 1961, you bought a TV and kept it for years and years. In 1988 we still had one belonging to my uncle that was 20 years old. Nowadays, upgrading the TV every couple of years is the norm.

    In 1961, the basic TV was 200 quid(adjusted to todays figures), the top was 1,000. Today, 250 for the basic one, the top however is 10,000, actually, 20,000.

    So, whats my point? The VAT which ultimately ends up paying for "government services". The VAT take for televisions has trebled if not more-fold since the license came in. So, surely it's time to do away with the license?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,230 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    There was both a Radio and a TV license from 1961 until 1972, introduced in 1922 but not implemented until 1924, RÉ begins broadcasting in 1926.

    TV broadcasts in the US started in the 1920s, the fact that in 1955 in the US had one TV just shows how far ahead they were (In the 1990s I used to joke to a friends younger brother that we had a TV for every channel.. they only had one tv… then he realized we only had 2 TV channels, he fell for it every time).

    My parents would not have updated their walker TV only I bought them a new one, many older TV become the second bedroom screen, but even then how many children are all that interest in a TV in their room when they have tablets and phones.

    I'd argue that TV sales are still around the same in the last 20 years, perhaps an increase as we moved to Digital and flat screens. I bought a TV in 2020 when I moved into my new place, I have no plans to buy another.

    VAT does not go toward broadcasting, do you include all screens such has phones and tables and pcs?

    I have always said a drop the license fee, and introduce a small tax across all telecommunications for both business and consumers, the CnaM says its €400m to raise and ComReg regulates the fee on a service by service bases, moving the tax if necessary. That 400m would be a tiny amount added to each an every bill from Broadband to Mobile phones to On Demand services.

    But the problem isn't the fee or the money in RTÉ, it is its management.


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