Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

The slow pace of final decisions and deportations with an ever rising number of applications and a backlog is what is wrong !!.

The "right" and the "far right" are not the same thing. Although some posters want to conflate the two.

Fantastic. 😁 Yet another alt-right poster with no possession of facts. You pay heed to the recent GE here? Anti-immigration parties ain't cool.

Source please.

She may be wrong. She may be right. Neither side of this claim can be substantiated without accurate German government figures.

If it had happened then you'd be able to offer a source or corroborating evidence. I'll wait.

Perhaps vocational training can only by offered in Germany if you speak German (not the easiest language to learn) and none of the migrants can speak it.

" No doubt the NGOs funding this cases. They are really the route of all evil in this immigration industry. Right up their with the greedy hotel owners."

What is this hysteria or hyperbole @Headshot ?

NGOs bashing again !

The applicants brought actions against the Irish authorities in the High Court.

The Irish authorities acknowledged the applicants had suffered violations of national laws implementing the directive, but contested their entitlement to damages

The Irish government acknowledged the applicants had suffered violation of NATIONAL LAWS.

Yet again the Government destroying the fabric of rural Ireland

Over 300 people attended a meeting last night to voice their opposition to the former Oughterard Manor Nursing Home being used as an IPAS centre.

It's understood that an application to use the site - which has been used to accommodate Ukrainian refugees - is under consideration by the Department of Integration.

Listen here:

Rural Ireland just keeps losing and losing

This government is just taking and taking from Rural Ireland, hotels taken away with the knock on affect on local business, increase in crimes with Al Hindawi being a prime example and in the case of Oughterard taking a nursing home away

https://extra.ie/2025/03/05/news/politics/assylum-seekers-economic-migrants

Michael Martin reckons the majority of people seeking Asylum here are here for financial reasons.
The majority of these are most certainly not deported as you say, and you’d want to be incredibly naive to think our systems filters out all of the chancers. There are literally tens of thousands applying.

Regardless, even if they are eventually found out and refused and leave (absolute best case scenario), they’re still costing us billions in Accommodation and additional costs in the interim.
It is a massive problem and waste of taxpayers resources and in typical fashion the government are only now beginning to take it seriously after the horse has bolted.

If they had adopted strict but fair rules like Denmark from the outset a lot of this could have been avoided. Instead they chose to do nothing and gained us the rep of a soft mark nation that is easily gamed and we are all paying for it now.

War on and off in Kashmir since 1947 owing to the state being partitioned.

The uber-nationalist Modi government has also been persecuting Muslims, academics and journalists for the past 11 years.

(Either are grounds for an asylum claim from an Indian national).

We set our own immigration policy. This is basic stuff you should know before commenting. We are signatories to the 1951 Refugee Convention which precedes the Treaty of Rome (setting up the EEC) by a full 6 years. The former is where we derive our obligations to refugees. We didn't even join the EEC until 1973 so criticising the EU is entirely inaccurate.

Mod Snip - Removed and warning issued for ignoring mod instructions in OP regarding Irelands legal obligations under the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

Furthermore, while I may have some sympathy/empathy for the situation these people find themselves in, I feel zero obligation or desire to provide for their desires at my, my family's, my community's, or my country's expense - be it financially, societally, culturally ot otherwise!

Ireland and the Irish have done more than our "fair share" to help the poor and needy of the planet. We give away billions in foreign aid, put our own citizens at risk in peacekeeping missions, and we donate even more privately through charities. On top of that we have taken on the needs of tens of thousands of Ukranians (and their pets!) and others in a very short timeframe. This by a small island nation on the edge of Europe, hugely vulnerable itself to the whims of international trade and political spats (as we've seen in even the last 7 days) and ON TOP OF all the long-standing, significant and fundamental issues we already struggled with - housing, healthcare, urban/rural economic divides, political incompetence and inefficency/waste, and all the other problems we've failed to address.

So no, I don't particularly care about every other randomer with a sad story who arrives here with their hand out expecting me and my fellow citizens to support them AND get in-line behind them for services I/we pay for and that WE actually DO have a legal, moral and constitutional right to first and foremost - ESPECIALLY when those supports are not unlimited, not free, and not without compromises elsewhere in many cases.

That's the reality of the situation, and it's one that more people in not only Ireland, but Europe as a whole, are starting to realise and raise entirely correct questions and concerns about, and the bleating about "obligations" or "far-right" or "racist/xenophobia" or whatever other nonsense attempts to stifle those questions is finally being seen and treated as the meaningless guff that it is.

Charity and obligations (no quotation marks this time!) begin at home and we have more than enough worthy, deserving, and actually deserving cases right here if some need a "cause" to fight for - politicans could even call it a mandate!

Once we sort out our own house, maybe then we can think about housing others!

The circumstances on accommodation should be explained to asylum seekers .They should be given the choice of assisted voluntary returns or sign a waiver to accept what's available when applying .