Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Is there any consensus as to why stock prices are rebounding slightly?

Because there doesn't seem to be any signs as of yet that Trump will reverse course on the tariffs.

I'm really not convinced that you do.

Are registered members of the Libertarian Party now Republicans because of how they voted in that 1 election? Because that's what you're saying.

The reality is non-Republicans voted for him, if you're saying they're all MAGA then they're all Republicans now too right?

Investors think mistakenly that they have bottomed out. If that's the case, they ain't seen nothing yet. It will be interesting to see the market when Trump slaps on an extra 50% on China in a while.

He will probably wait for the closing bell.

He should have named his book "The Art of the Deal when you're not dealing with China"

Bull trap

Should be noted that Trump is no Republican : MAGA-ism is effectively a brand new right wing populist or far right movement with little or no connection to the Republican Party of Reagan and the two Bushes (similar to the distinction between Reform and the old Conservative party in the UK).

China is also looking at Services which is interesting, as well as non-tariff retaliations such as cancelling patents from US companies within China and withdrawing from cooperation on the fentanyl issue

China is a “partner” now?

No its not what i'm saying at all, MAGA does not equal republican as its effectively a party hiding within a larger party, the only requirement for MAGA membership is agreeing with what trump says and a vote for him is again a tacit agreement of what he says and does therefore if you voted for him you absolutely voted for MAGA whether you like it or not. Saying you voted for him but don't support MAGA is a lazy cop out of people not wanting to deal with the consequences or be blamed for their actions in the voting booth.

There is actually around 5-6 separate parties across the political spectrum all hiding under the 2 umbrellas of Democrats and Republicans, similar to the Tories and Labour in the UK. They hide under those 2 umbrellas as the First Past the Post electoral system being a horrifically undemocratic voting system forces them to so they can get elected.

If they had a more democratic electoral system such as our own PR/STV that allowed those parties to exist as their own viable political entities then those people would hopefully have voted for someone that more aligns with their views however there isn't so they didn't BUT they still made a choice to vote for MAGA or not MAGA, that is unfortunately binary and as far as trump is concerned a vote for him was a vote for and an endorsement of MAGA. And that is all that matters right now as he fully believes all 77 million people who voted for him agree with him.

This is just a question of simple English.

It doesn't matter what a voter's political ideology is. If they have voted for a MAGA candidate then they have shown their support for MAGA and can therefore be called a MAGA supporter.

That they may have also voted for Libertarian or actual Republican candidates on other ballots is irrelevant. They could have chosen to abstain from voting for the MAGA candidate or voted for the other side of they wanted to be anti-MAGA.

Which goods and why?

If Trump was applying targeted tariffs to China for unfair trade practices, the stock markets around the globe wouldn't be tanking.

The situation isn't remotely the same and I suspect you know that or you'd be able to present more than a one liner.

60% of Amazons operating income comes from AWS. They're far less exposed to this than almost any other major retailer.

To protect workers in Germany,France and Italy. Otherwise we would all buy Chinese steel,cars etc .

Irish consumers pay tariffs to keep German car workers in a job.

Amazing how it works for Germany.

https://www.csis.org/blogs/trustee-china-hand/slamming-brakes-eu-votes-impose-tariffs-chinese-evs

JD Vance: We borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture

China: It is surprising and sad to hear such ignorant and impolite words from this vice president

😃

So by that logic there's plenty of MAGA supporters who voted for Kamala Harris

Sorry, I'm not buying this at all

Average can refer to mean (most common use), median or mode. Median is the 'middle value' with 50% either side of it.