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Are asexuals 'fake oppressed'? **Mod Note in Post #221**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,689 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    You're right, they don't. To be honest it's far more than I'd like to know about someone and I'd consider it oversharing.

    But hey, if bandying together with other people who have a shared experience in something that might cause them to feel like an outsider helps them so be it, I'm all for it. Can't see any harm being done… even if it annoys JK Rowling somewhat. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    You asked a question, which I answered.

    Which is fine, but why would anyone else need to know that about someone?

    Really?

    I imagine if one struck up a relationship with an asexual person they may deserve to know that.

    Who said anything about wearing no sex flags?

    You are building more strawmen again?

    Oh was it you who thought I had said that an asexual awareness day led to more wildfires?

    That's exactly what you did say.

    I know nonsense, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    Newsflash - the message is not for you its for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭89897


    Thats not what you said though, you said a world where people only stuck with likeminded people! You also said people instisted but now people dont insist.

    If you dont care so much why feel like its being forced on you. Others might just shruk their shoulders and move on unpetured, thats not caring.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    But that's not what they're doing: like I said earlier, setting up a group might be a great idea. Inventing an "asexual awareness day", presumably with little badges, cheap flags and overpriced t-shirts for sale seems more like being taken for a ride (ha) by profiteers. Unless you have an actual march, how would it put asexual people in touch with each other? Anyway - it's not aimed at other asexual people, it's aimed at the rest of the world - since if you're asexual you don't need to be made aware of it.

    So it's not going to do what you suggest.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    It's not though. It's for everyone else. That's what the word "awareness" refers to.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Nope, I said someone's asexuality is not something that warrants a day of recognition.

    I don't feel it's forced upon me, but the fact they it is a thing, means that my opposition to it is worthy to be aired. Please don't misconstrue my commenting about it as some sort of outrage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    I'm sorry if the link was too subtle for you, but to be clear, I did not say that an asexual awareness day causes more fires. No matter how often you repeat it.

    The rest of my posts seem to be similarly far too hard for you, so I suggest we leave it at that. I'm happy enough that they're clear to most of the rest of the world.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,429 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Downs Syndrome, Breast Cancer, Spina Bifida etc, it's always good to have a day where people are reminded that, if they can, they should contribute to a charity.

    I don't disagree with that. Contributing to charity is a worthwhile in those cases.

    But of somebody was indifferent to a particular cause, they are free to make that choice. But turning indifference into public mocking is being a prick.

    A day of awareness for people who may not want to have sex…. not so much. The fact that you have directly compared Downs Syndrome awareness to Asexuality awareness is both hilarious, ridiculous and proves my point.

    I didn't make a comparison between the two LMFAO. I simply mentioned Downs Syndrome as it was a recent "World Day", one I advocate for. It was intentionally an extreme example.
    Thinking that was equating the two suggests it went over your head. But don't worry, International Reading Comprehension day is coming up.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Apologies Boggles. For complete clarity, my position is that someone's sexuality or lack thereof doesn't need a day of awareness and should be kept between people who are in a relationship where they do or do not have sex.

    I have no need to be aware of someone who I am not in a relationship with, as to whether or not they are interested in sex.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,689 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Awareness informs people that 'asexuality' (as the group sees it) exists - this might make some people stop and think;

    'Hey you know what? I feel like this! I've been in relationships for years with a partner looking for XYZ from me and I wasn't interested in that at all - I thought there was something wrong with me and I was deficient!'

    Awareness also makes people who feel a certain way not feel alone.

    'Hey you know what, there are other people like me! Maybe I don't have to exist in a relationship where I am forcing myself to do things I don't want to do when I could meet another person like me'

    It's a big assumption on your part that 'if you're asexual you don't need to be made aware of it' - some people genuinely do and believe there's something wrong with them for not feeling a particular way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    You do know there exist people who do not feel like having physical relationships with the opposite sex, or the same sex, and are not aware that there are other people like them, and therefore in the absence of awareness incorrectly believe there is something wrong with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭89897


    Incorrect, Below is what you said, You'll see I even bolded the parts yuu claim you never said!

    "I agree. It's not for most people. I just wish people just kept themselves to themselves and interacted with likeminded people. The insistence that EVERYONE needs to acknowledge them is narcissistic at best. Live your best life as long as you are being legal. We don't need to know your antics."

    How can i not misconsctrue you're commenting when you're not even clear of it yourself?



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    That was a little mean but ok, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

    But saying that people are pricks for mocking the fact that people want to bring to attention that they aren't interested in sex is very very different.

    I'd be of the opinion that if someone who defines themselves by their sexuality (or lack thereof) publicly are absolutely fair game.

    My reading comprehension is fine thanks. Perhaps review your own responses before you bandy about the word "prick".



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    With regards sexuality, I do think that instead of a blanket statement, you should build a relationship before you reveal your sexual desires or lack thereof.

    I don't think that everyone needs to know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,689 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Might be worth having a read of Crusd's post below for actual reasons for an awareness day (and not some sort of peacocking 'Look at me, I'm special!' type of thing)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,429 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I might have missed some posts. But how does asexuality awareness day include people are not asexual?
    Are just getting at the the distinction between "little to no" and "nothing at all".
    That seems a bit pedantic, given I that those terms, and measuring it at all is pretty subjective.

    Now it doesn't exist? lo, didn't take long for the mask to slip.

    Chloroform? LMFAO. Asexual reproduction relates to plants. That a two worded phrase, words are needed.
    Asexual is simply and english adjective. It's not "made up". That's just what the A- prefix means in in english. Atheist, Apathy, Amoral, Amensia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,862 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    "What do we want?"

    "To not be defined by our lack of sexual identity"

    "Why are we annoyed again?"

    "Not sure".

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    There is also another reason people in general should be aware of its existence. You may be in a relationship with someone who shows little to no interest is an intimate relationship. This can have a huge impact on self esteem if you have a partner with low sex drive as you may believe it is you. It can cause anger issues or jealousy as people can believe "they must be getting it somewhere else". If people are aware that asexuality is a thing it may allow for open and honest relationships. It can allow people to have a fulfilling relationship in that scenario, or decide to move on before its too hurtful if being at the same sexually is important to the individual(s).

    Or you could just ignore it. That's always the healthy option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    You may want to take a look at who is actually getting annoyed, not who some are pretending are getting annoyed in order to feed their need for tilting at windmills



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Yes of course, they'd feel the urge to get it on and to get giggity with it, hence bye bye asexuality and hello to the love zone 😘

    Still don't know the difference between being celebrate or being asexual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    I think that this specific orientation is too narrow for a licensed venue to cater for.

    But don't despair. There is an app called Meetup. Search there. If there is nothing locally, you can create your own "GC Gay" Meetup group and meet like-minded people on your own terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,429 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I firmly stand by my use of prick. Rowling was being an antagonist prick, I don't think she was trying to hide that.

    But saying that people are pricks for mocking the fact that people want to bring to attention that they aren't interested in sex is very very different.

    As people have pointed ok, it's not about bring attention to their individual "lack of interest" in a look at me, but the fact that like-minded people exist.

    I'd be of the opinion that if someone who defines themselves by their sexuality (or lack thereof) publicly are absolutely fair game.

    You think people that are say publicly homosexual are fair game to be mocked for being homosexual. Wow. You are not doing yourself any favours with that one…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,933 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    To me, LGB people are people who are ultra-comfortable with sex."

    Hey don't forget the T. We Trans Women and Trans men exist too.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Should we look forward to one of these threads every day?

    International bakers day? Why do they need a day, sure we know they exist.

    International autism day? Sure we know they exist.

    International bat appreciation day? We don't appreciate bats, why do they get a day?

    It's exhausting. Everyday is a day for something, so what, if it doesn't affect you, don't worry about it 🙄



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