Are asexuals 'fake oppressed'? Mod Note in Post #221

George White · 06-04-2025 10:33PM #1

On Asexual Awareness Day, JK Rowling has caused more strife because she's mocking aseuals for wanting their fake oppression.

I am asexual myself, and I have to say I kind of find it funny. I know she's awful, but I have an awful sense of humour more common in people more bigoted than mysekf. But I knew my fellow asexuals would throw the baby with the bathwater. I am just curious do people here agree with her. A lot of asexuals have become asexual because of sexual violence and asexuals have been known to have had traumatic conversion therapy.

Like to me asexuality means I'd rather eat and watch TV and walk and watch old films than ****. That's all it **** is. It's all very boring, really.
To me, LGB people are people who are ultra-comfortable with sex.
Asexuals aren't. Gay people like having sex. Asexuals don't. Simples. But I know people will disagree.

EmmetSpiceland · 06-04-2025 10:40PM

She has really leaned into being a horrible person.

igCorcaigh · 06-04-2025 10:40PM

Interesting perspective, I'd like to understand more.

George White · 06-04-2025 10:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333112#Comment_123333112

I see others are joining in. See the thing is I wish I had the cojones of people like her and others. I have that nasty sense of humour but I am sort of trans myself (I wear dresses, I used to identify as non-binary but realised that was ridiculous - esp. because people think non-binary people won't debate and keep blaming people).

I know more people are transphobic and like transphobic humour. I want to make them laugh but I don't want to alienate the people i love.

But I have a TERFy sense of humour.

That's probably the reason I've alienated myself. I thought I'd find a gender-critical community in Dublin. But it's as if the Irish Independent was lying to me.

My perspective is that asexuality is a rejection of sexuality. It's a fear of sex. When I tell people I'm asexual, they often don't know. So I just tell them I am celibate. The difference is celibacy is forced. I suppose the root of 'acephobia' is the belief that celibacy is unnatural.

But as I say, I often talk bull.

suvigirl · 06-04-2025 11:07PM

Thought asexuals just don't want to have sex. Am I missing something?

Kurooi · 06-04-2025 11:15PM

It is an odd one alright. You don't want to have sex, okay - don't.

George White · 06-04-2025 11:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333177#Comment_123333177

That's the thing.

But there are asexual gay couples. Something which I don't quite get myself. But that's maybe because I just want to be an attention seeking contrarian.

It's just that some people want Asexual to be part of the queer alphabet soup. While I can see some arguments, you can make those arguments for anything.

'oh, we have the same trauma'.

You know who else have trauma? People of colour, people with disabilities, and they're not all wanting to be called queer.

To be honest, I'm probably like this because I've seen too many people being like this, and thinking, 'I want some of that'.

suvigirl · 06-04-2025 11:24PM

I'm lost.

George White · 06-04-2025 11:28PM

I remember Graham Linehan calling them attention seekers, but poor aul Graham thinks Britpoppers is a slur, so…

And I did see an LGB friend make jokes about asexuals but usually bafflement about the LGBT including asexuals, .e.g. 'Yes, back in the 70s asexuals were absolutely FLOCKING to see Bette Midler at the bathhouses.'

Which I found funnier, but he's a genuinely funny man.

igCorcaigh · 07-04-2025 07:10AM

Um, what does asexual mean then; I had thought that it was not such a lack of sexual desire rather than a lack of sexual desire for a certain gender?

I probably don't understand what it really is then.

NIMAN · 07-04-2025 07:34AM

I'm struggling to see how they are oppressed tbh.

They decide, of their own accord, to be celebate. No one is forcing them to abstain from having sex.

This doesn't fit the definition of oppression, does it?

And if they are not claiming to be oppressed, why do we need to have an international day for it? It's like having an international beard day.

J. Marston · 07-04-2025 07:57AM

Of course they are, no-one gives a shìt that they're not getting the ride.

It's annoying to agree with Rowling on anything because she's a cùnt but asexuals having a day and flag just screams "I'm special too".

Grayson · 07-04-2025 07:59AM

Where in JK Rowlings post does it actually say that they're oppressed? It looks like it's an awareness thing and she decided that they said they were being oppressed.

eightieschewbaccy · 07-04-2025 08:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333208#Comment_123333208

A relationship doesn't necessarily need to be sexual to be loving etc. So I don't really see it as particularly weird that you can have LGBT asexual people. This sounds more like Rowling being outraged for the sake of it.

George White · 07-04-2025 08:23AM

I like being outraged for the sake of it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333494#Comment_123333494

Exactly. That's what I was saying. I'm asexual. I just want to bloody live my life.

But the thing is WHEN I see stuff like this, I want to be transphobic. They keep saying Ireland has a huge GC community, but every time I inquire cos I'd love to sit down with these people and see the other side, I'm always banned by reddit or whatever. If these people are everywhere, why aren't they more public?

After al, 'they won'. If you read all the TERF twitter, they think they have won. Kathleen Stock, the Cass review, if you've won, why aren't you being more public about it?

Does anyone here know where the GCs hang out?

Grayson · 07-04-2025 08:26AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333528#Comment_123333528

Generally where they're not wanted.

eightieschewbaccy · 07-04-2025 08:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333528#Comment_123333528

The existence of asexual people makes you want to be transphobic? That's a bit odd. I don't think Ireland has a particularly large terf community for the record. If you really want to find some, it's not that hard though.

George White · 07-04-2025 08:42AM

It's not the existence of asexual people. It's the fact that when I see people laughing and thinking Jo is funny, but when I see, people block me and attack me. So I'd feel more comfortable with GCs because they'd laugh at my asexual jokes.

I get called 'an internalised aphobe'.

Jack Daw · 07-04-2025 08:44AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333112#Comment_123333112

Not really, calling out this Asexuality day is correct.

Please point out any way in which people who are asexual are oppressed or why the need a day to celebrate awareness of them?

They're just either oppressed by themselves or think that not fitting in with what people expect is a form of oppression (when it isn't).

Nobody would know a person was asexual unless they told you they were.

It's just a way of boring people wanting to be seen as special/interesting by having a supposed condition attached to them.

Peregrinus · 07-04-2025 08:48AM

Please point out where they claim to be oppressed? Rowling posts a graphic which simply points to the existence of asexual people and raises awareness about the identity. She seems to think that this is a claim about oppression, but it clearly is not.

The only oppression here is by Rowling herself; say anything about who you are, and Rowling will gratuitously accuse of of falsely claiming to be oppressed. She just wants you to shut up and not be noticed.

In fact, Rowling's behaviour here seems to me to illustrate exactly why something like Asexuality Day might be needed. Her attitude here isn't really any different from the attitudes that were prevalent a generation ago in relation to homosexuality — Just Don't Talk About It. "Your existence will be tolerated as long as we are not expected to notice or acknowledge you."

suvigirl · 07-04-2025 08:49AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333528#Comment_123333528

What's a GC?

And why would you want to be transphobic

George White · 07-04-2025 08:54AM

It's because I like being a contrarian moreso out of any kind of belief.

But I don't want to hurt the trans friends I have.

But I think a lot of GCs would blush to admit that.

Peregrinus · 07-04-2025 08:57AM

They would blush to admit that they didn't want to hurt their trans friends?

Mister Vain · 07-04-2025 09:00AM

I'm as confused as a hungry baby in a topless bar.

eightieschewbaccy · 07-04-2025 09:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333553#Comment_123333553

The thing is I've looked it up and they've emphasised awareness. So really the only one getting outraged at claims of oppression is Rowling who has introduced the term in the first place. So it's basically manufactured outrage that you're lapping up.

Havenowt · 07-04-2025 09:13AM

Why does everyone want to be labelled these days…

George White · 07-04-2025 09:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333455#Comment_123333455

Exactly.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333579#Comment_123333579

No they would blush to admit they don't believe what they are saying. They just like getting outraged. It's like that Tory who complained that that TV show Sherwood was a woke modern day version of Robin Hood, and not a crime drama set in modern Nottingham that had a lunatic wielding a crossbow, and then when someone told him, he was like, 'Yes, I know'.

Yvonne007 · 07-04-2025 09:16AM

Isn't asexual the lack of wanting to have sex or being attracted to people?

"OH NOTICE ME, I DONT WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU"

erm…. just live your life.

Nobody is oppressing you. You made a choice. Keep it to yourself.

And "wanting to be transphobic"? You either are or you aren't. The "want" part makes me feel like this is slightly disingenuous.

F*ck sake.

suvigirl · 07-04-2025 09:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333584#Comment_123333584

🤣🤣 That's the feeling I was looking for!

NattyO · 07-04-2025 09:34AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333612#Comment_123333612

I don't think anyone is actually outraged - Rowling appears to be mildly amused.

Why does everyone's every little personality trait require "awareness" nowadays?

I have a deep fondness for tinkering with carburettors - should I make a little flag, and start an awareness day for the global community of Oul Lads Who Like To Tinker With Carbs?

It smacks of "I desperately need to make a big deal of this personality trait so that somebody, somewhere, might say something relatively innocuous that I can take offence to, and then I, too can be an oppressed minority and label strangers with a made-up -ism on social media".

eightieschewbaccy · 07-04-2025 09:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123333663#Comment_123333663

I would say a person lacking sexual desires can be a pretty difficult thing to deal and being open about it isn't a bad thing. So likening it to a hobby is a bit stupid.

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Are asexuals 'fake oppressed'? Mod Note in Post #221