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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,601 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Imagine being in college or working and then being told you have to leave the country immediately. That is serious.

    US revoking all visas for South Sudan passports and blocking new arrivals - as the African nation is not accepting its nationals expelled from the US. “every country must accept the return of its citizens in a timely manner when another country … seeks to remove them.. will be prepared to review these actions when South Sudan is in full cooperation" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/06/us-revokes-all-visas-for-south-sudanese-over-countrys-failure-to-repatriate-citizens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    It's also worth pointing out to those who support an "Irexit" and who point to the post Brexit UK having a 10% tariff rate, just look what Ireland only tariff would be if we left the EU tomorrow morning.

    US trade deficit with Ireland: $73 billion.

    US imports from Ireland: $76 billion.

    $73 billion ÷ $76 billion ≈ 0.9605 or 96.05%.

    Following the EU precedent, if this figure is halved (as Trump’s "discounted reciprocal" approach suggests), the tariff would be 96.05% ÷ 2 ≈ 48.03%, rounded to 48%.

    Maybe 45% if he was feeling nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Maybe, but it depends.

    Triggering a war with Iran appeared to be a goal Donnie wanted in the first term, likely as part of some blockheaded scheme to glean popularity as a «War President». Sort of like what Bush Jr. managed for a short while after 9/11.

    However thanks to Donnie’s general fecklessness and total lack of any real follow-though it didn’t happen.

    I’m certain he’d love an Iran War was a distraction from his current wave of extra-concentrated stupid, but that idea is not complicated by his buddy Putin having a weapons relationship with Iran. Russia and Iran are allies now, and for the forseeable a useful one to Moscow. So Donnie likely can’t attack Iran in the short term at very least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,397 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I like to see it, but unfortunately its too late now. They had their chance to keep this buffoon out of power in November, and didn't take it. It's a shame that we all now have to live with the consequences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,799 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Maybe doing serious calculations and deep thought about tariffs - or anything else Trump has come up with - is pointless. Maybe he gave no thought whatever to what he was doing. He had a simplistic calculation to base his numbers on, and applied it, but all he was looking for was submission from world leaders. He expected they would come, cap in hand, begging for negotiation so that he could feel powerful. That is all he needs, the approach; his attempts at negotiation have proved to be laughable but that is not important. He has the weight of the most powerful country in the world behind him, as he sees it, they would have to come begging. Its not even so much a power grab as his ego and vanity trying to overcome his insecurity. His thinking process is so simplistic he felt able to drop his bomb then go golfing while the world struggled - he hoped - to cope with his demands.

    He sees it as being within his gift to create wealth for wealthy - and thus in his mind powerful - people, who will then respect him. Submission from world leaders and respect from the wealthy, and wealth for himself, so no grift is too brazen, these are all that matter to him.

    He is totally and absolutely superficial, look at the gold ornaments he surrounds himself with, the women who decorate his environment, his concern with how many people flock to see him, his strange appearance, his obsession with everyone's 'ratings'. He is the ultimate vacuous influencer of vacuous people. There is nothing else.

    “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” G. Michael Hopf



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Think the world is stuck with him for four years so the first chance to curtail him will be at the mid terms ,Democrats need to get their act together and get back control of the houses then at least the damage might be lessened somewhat .If the people start feeling the pinch in their pocket that would be a help also .



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    A lot of countries on the list do stuff the US could never do. So those jobs won't be going to America.

    One of the main Dutch exporters is ASML. They sell the machines that make the chips. The US was trying to stop them selling to China so Trump will likely back down and set ASML tariffs to zero despite the Netherlands being set to 20%

    TSMC will promising investment (promises, promises it's been done before by others to kick the can) in the US but will only be building FABs , the R&D without which any new plant would soon become obsolete will still be done abroad. TSMC are of course zero tariff.

    The tariffs on Madagascar will no doubt re-vitalize the US vanilla industry. The tropical trees will have grown up before the end of term and there'll be a cheap workforce to harvest them. Robots and drones might be cheaper.

    The clothing industry is an example of where low wage economies can compete with mechanization. Those type of jobs will never come back to the US as mechanization is cheaper than US labour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It seemed relevant enough for 8-10 to ask. Kermit gave a better than I to 8-10, reminding me that services also includes those who wait on us.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    US President Donald Trump has slapped comprehensive tariffs on 185 countries worldwide, but not on Russia and Belarus. or North Korea or Cuba. How is this not a WTO Most Favoured Nation issue ?

    If Trump wanted to put real pressure on Russia he could easily impose tariffs and visa restrictions on places like India that import Russian fuel. He could end the war tomorrow* (or actual words he said, there's always a tweet)

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62xyrr20dxo

    Trump has backed down on TikTok too. It is impossible to respect him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Thanks for that stats info. I was watching TV news and it covered US farmers and soybeans. Your post explained the importance of China to the US soybean industry and why Trump's tariffs war might be bad for those farmers, if China's retaliations include using another source for it's soybeans needs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,562 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The physical copy of the Business Post is quite dramatic today. Front page has a big picture of an angry Trump with "New World Order" as the headline.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Looking with interest at two different online media sources about the relationship between Musk and the Trump insiders. The Daily Mail [which messaging is known to be loyal to Trump] reads "Elon's downfall as Trump's right-hand and the meeting that set him off".

    The Independent's headliner is that Musk is attacking Navarro, the man behind Trump's tariffs, as a Harvard College person, that anything from Harvard is not to be trusted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,742 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Not as dramatic as what is going on in the USA with Trump. The media and politicians here are very muted in their reaction so far. Maybe they thing it will go away?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


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    The locals are revolting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,601 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Very good, wish Irish papers were as creative

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I think Musk came out yesterday arguing for 0% tariffs and total freedom of trade between the US and EU.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/musk-says-he-hopes-zero-tariffs-between-us-europe-2025-04-05/

    "At the end of the day, I hope it's agreed that both Europe and the United States should move ideally, in my view, to a zero tariff situation, effectively creating a free trade zone between Europe and North America," Musk said.

    …..

    "If people wish to work in Europe or wish to work in North America, they should be allowed to do so in my view," Musk said, adding that this "has certainly been my advice to the president."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Does he mean "zero tariffs" or "zero tariffs, zero standards, zero regulation"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,799 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    They seem very comfortable with throwing out daft ideas, then changing them, reversing them and similar messing, assuming that the rest of the world has nothing better to do than follow their squirrel brained notions, waiting for the word from the master and adjusting to suit him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,562 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I think they might be expecting him to revoke the tariffs. And you know something, I think he will revoke them. They got off to a bad start and flawed calcs so he might need to cut his losses. The question is when. Monday will be interesting.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,111 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    He's been golfing for the last three days apparently.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,970 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If a Democrat president did this during a stock market crash you can be sure the forum would be flooded with comments from MAGA sneaking regarders castigating them.

    And Trump no doubt racking up a huge bill for his golf junket, putting paid to the lie he gives a damn about saving taxpayers money.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Probably less regulation. That's a big talking point in the general anti-EU sentiment in the US. To be fair, the EU probably does need to make some changes to try and stem the flow of talent and new businesses moving from here to the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,435 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    A FTA like the USMCA?

    How's that working out for Canada and Mexico? That was a trade agreement negotiated and signed by Trump, the best in the world and now he's saying it's the worst in the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,078 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Him playing golf tells you all you need to know. He and his administration appear confident that they can maintain power for the foreseeable, despite this unpopular stance on trade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭yagan


    I reckon we'll be seeing a reverse in that trend. I can see US multinationals splitting their operations between their global and US operations. If you've got a factory in the EU and the US and you've got a consignment of raw material on route from Brazil you'll now divert it to your EU factory avoid Trumps tariffs.

    Ireland is actually extremely well placed to take advantage of this new dynamic.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    You are suggesting they hold primaries 3.5 years out from the next election? They would need to amend a whole bunch of state laws for starters to do that.

    Or are you suggesting the main figures in the party consolidate behind a candidate? Cause the problem there is that a bunch of those main figures are exactly the people who will be trying to be the candidate. It is going to be a wide open primary.

    It is, in the American system, completely abnormal to have a "leader" of the non-Presidential party at this stage. That the Republicans have formed themselves into a cult doesn't change that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Remember when Biden checked his watch?

    Apocalyptic rage.

    Trump refused to show up to the dead soldiers returned from Lithuania recently.

    Silence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭yagan


    It just shows that he doesn't care about presidential responsibilities while enjoying all its privileges.

    Actively abusing it too by billing the US taxpayer when he stays at his own hotels.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,247 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Probably

    "zero tariffs, zero standards, zero regulation,zero reputation"



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