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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Thanks for that stats info. I was watching TV news and it covered US farmers and soybeans. Your post explained the importance of China to the US soybean industry and why Trump's tariffs war might be bad for those farmers, if China's retaliations include using another source for it's soybeans needs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,993 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The physical copy of the Business Post is quite dramatic today. Front page has a big picture of an angry Trump with "New World Order" as the headline.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Looking with interest at two different online media sources about the relationship between Musk and the Trump insiders. The Daily Mail [which messaging is known to be loyal to Trump] reads "Elon's downfall as Trump's right-hand and the meeting that set him off".

    The Independent's headliner is that Musk is attacking Navarro, the man behind Trump's tariffs, as a Harvard College person, that anything from Harvard is not to be trusted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Not as dramatic as what is going on in the USA with Trump. The media and politicians here are very muted in their reaction so far. Maybe they thing it will go away?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


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    The locals are revolting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,483 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Very good, wish Irish papers were as creative

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I think Musk came out yesterday arguing for 0% tariffs and total freedom of trade between the US and EU.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/musk-says-he-hopes-zero-tariffs-between-us-europe-2025-04-05/

    "At the end of the day, I hope it's agreed that both Europe and the United States should move ideally, in my view, to a zero tariff situation, effectively creating a free trade zone between Europe and North America," Musk said.

    …..

    "If people wish to work in Europe or wish to work in North America, they should be allowed to do so in my view," Musk said, adding that this "has certainly been my advice to the president."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Does he mean "zero tariffs" or "zero tariffs, zero standards, zero regulation"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,730 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    They seem very comfortable with throwing out daft ideas, then changing them, reversing them and similar messing, assuming that the rest of the world has nothing better to do than follow their squirrel brained notions, waiting for the word from the master and adjusting to suit him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,993 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I think they might be expecting him to revoke the tariffs. And you know something, I think he will revoke them. They got off to a bad start and flawed calcs so he might need to cut his losses. The question is when. Monday will be interesting.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,617 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    He's been golfing for the last three days apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,709 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If a Democrat president did this during a stock market crash you can be sure the forum would be flooded with comments from MAGA sneaking regarders castigating them.

    And Trump no doubt racking up a huge bill for his golf junket, putting paid to the lie he gives a damn about saving taxpayers money.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Probably less regulation. That's a big talking point in the general anti-EU sentiment in the US. To be fair, the EU probably does need to make some changes to try and stem the flow of talent and new businesses moving from here to the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    A FTA like the USMCA?

    How's that working out for Canada and Mexico? That was a trade agreement negotiated and signed by Trump, the best in the world and now he's saying it's the worst in the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Him playing golf tells you all you need to know. He and his administration appear confident that they can maintain power for the foreseeable, despite this unpopular stance on trade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭yagan


    I reckon we'll be seeing a reverse in that trend. I can see US multinationals splitting their operations between their global and US operations. If you've got a factory in the EU and the US and you've got a consignment of raw material on route from Brazil you'll now divert it to your EU factory avoid Trumps tariffs.

    Ireland is actually extremely well placed to take advantage of this new dynamic.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    You are suggesting they hold primaries 3.5 years out from the next election? They would need to amend a whole bunch of state laws for starters to do that.

    Or are you suggesting the main figures in the party consolidate behind a candidate? Cause the problem there is that a bunch of those main figures are exactly the people who will be trying to be the candidate. It is going to be a wide open primary.

    It is, in the American system, completely abnormal to have a "leader" of the non-Presidential party at this stage. That the Republicans have formed themselves into a cult doesn't change that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Remember when Biden checked his watch?

    Apocalyptic rage.

    Trump refused to show up to the dead soldiers returned from Lithuania recently.

    Silence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭yagan


    It just shows that he doesn't care about presidential responsibilities while enjoying all its privileges.

    Actively abusing it too by billing the US taxpayer when he stays at his own hotels.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Probably

    "zero tariffs, zero standards, zero regulation,zero reputation"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    Screenshot 2025-04-06 at 12.18.56 copy.png

    There is no limit to the depths this administration can sink. Truely disgusting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    MAGA supporters saying the protesters yesterday were all funded by Soros, the same people who have no problem with billionaire Musk running the show



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭amandstu


    "Could not help but make me feel ashamed

    To live in a land where justice is a game"

    BD (Hurricane)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Given how he occasionally claims that tariffs are a bargaining tool, I wouldn't be at all surprised. This time, he may be in a bind of his own creation: the time lapse between both may prevent him [for either a safety stand-still position or being pure pig-headed] from cancelling them. The last one was cancelled on the ALLEGED basis that he had got what he wanted from Canada and Mexico.

    IMO, it now revolves around a matter of pride as well as politics now, as he's used it against so many countries. He might not be able to admit he got it wrong, unless he's prepared to throw some-one in particular under the bus, again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    I didn't say anything about them having primaries at this stage. As for the main figures.....that's part of the problem.. who the hell are they.....where the hall are they? Even if there are 4, 5, 6 of them, they're still the minority in numbers

    In the last couple of days they've started wheeling out Obama and Harris again. I hope she doesnt think shes EVER getting another crack at it. It's pathetic. They're a shambles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭yagan


    A dead badger on the side of the road is a better candidate than the incumbent.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Jeffries, Schumer, Newsome. All of whom I have seen plenty of without going looking. I think their messaging is fairly crap, but I've seen plenty of them.

    The Democrat candidate for President could be a house member, a governor, a senator. We have absolutely no idea and neither does anyone else. Newsome is clearly gunning for it so won't recognise anyone else as the "defacto leader" of the party etc etc. This is all just normal politics work in the US, you are demanding something impossible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,211 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    That Newsom podcast isn't going down well either, he's having people like Steve Bannon on it but not challenging anything that they say..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    The White House stated yesterday he won, do they ever release his scores?



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