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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,757 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Except he literally had a presidency where he did absolutely nothing for that group so the logic doesn't really follow.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    There are so many places in the US like that that have been devastated by it.

    No there aren't. This is a complete and utter falsehood. Almost everywhere in the US is doing better than they did 30 years ago.

    Detroit has suffered yes, but by and large middle America is doing far better than it ever has. The only reason the middle class has shrunk is because a huge portion of it has moved to the upper class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


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    Aged like milk. Once he's gone, I hope I never see such idiocy in power again in my lifetime.

    The republicans will be slaughtered during the midterm elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    So I wonder when Trump will start the concessions on the Tariffs. In his first term he gave Apple an exemption from the tariffs from China, this time around there's been none.

    No wonder the tech sector's stock plunged, all these data center's planned to be built for AI, is it possible to do that without sourcing from outside the US?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    They expected him to do something for them, that's the point. And every President since.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    Apple's shareholders overwhelmingly voted to keep their DEI policy. No concessions until they bend the knee and kiss the ring.

    Semiconductors were excluded from the Taiwan tariffs but all other material will become far more expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Semiconductors were excluded, but when you solder one to a board, that then becomes a GPU (different tariff code)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    A lot of MAGA followers are claiming Antifa are behind the protests.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,683 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    The DOW, NASDAQ and S&P 500 are all getting absolutely hammered in pre-market trading. Currently all down 6-7%. There seems to be plenty of nervous chatter of a potential market crash in the US come Monday morning. It seems seasoned institutional investors are rapidly dumping stock whilst retail investors are 'buying the dip' which is putting somewhat of a floor on the market. There will be carnage later in the week if the usual bounceback after a day or two does not transpire which retail investors have become accustomed to over the last decade or so. Expect plenty of panic selling if the slide does not come to a stop by Wednesday. A lot of MAGA folk are putting their life savings on the line.

    Interesting week ahead, it might prompt Trump to 'claim victory' sooner than he might have anticipated and embark upon a spectacular climbdown. As I said a few days ago, the markets have bent plenty a Presidency beyond breaking point. Trump thinks he is a Demigod, foolish man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I wonder if the rest of the word (excluding China) are just waiting to see what happens. Never interrupt an enemy when they are making a mistake!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭pad406




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭pad406


    You heard of Nero right?

    Bit of the old violin playing while all hell was breaking loose? Don't think golf was invented then, perhaps if it had been the phrase would have been "Nero played golf while Rome burned". See any similarities today?

    But the bit I really struggle to get my head around. Yeah, take a chance in 2016, maybe he'll make a difference, but then he does nothing, and I mean NOTHING for the ordinary Joe Public, and yet they re-elect him on the same non-sensical and plain false promises?

    Seriously people? You get the Government you deserve.

    And for those that stayed at home and didn't vote, I present my favorite political quote of all time, one that I hammer home to my now voting age kids:

    "Even if you think they are all idiots, use your vote to keep the biggest idiot out"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    They are.

    CNN is currently reporting that the Hands Off movement organised 1200 protests today across America. There were protests in NY, DC and all across the nation.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/05/us/hands-off-protests-trump-musk/index.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,079 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    It deserves summarizing one particular angle of just what happened these last few days.

    On Thursday/Friday the Stock market had one of its worst drops ever and the worst since Trump was last President and Covid happened.

    While all that was kicking off, Trump headed to Florida for a golf tournament at his resort.

    On Friday, Trump was not present for the return of 4 American Soldiers who had died during a training exercise in Lithuania. It is usually the case that the President would attend such an event.

    Today, Saturday, as people continue to reel from the turmoil of the self-imposed market events, Trump had the White House issue a public statement stating that Trump had won in a Senior Championship qualifying round at his course and that he would be playing again on Sunday in the Championship round. Trump also posted today a video of what he claimed were Terrorists in Yemen being blown up which is actually now being reported as likely having been civilians celebrating Eid in that country.

    So in the 4 days around the most impactful Presidential event since Covid, Trump spent those days focused on Golfing matters and posting a possible video of the US committing war crimes.

    I don't think there has ever in my lifetime been such abdication of the responsibilities of the office you hold as what Trump continuously demonstrates and while many of us said prior to last November that this is what he brought to the table, many on here and obviously on conservative Media circles worldwide claimed the opposite and now they continue to praise the naked emperor. In the case of the media, that in itself is an abdication of responsibility which has led him to being able to assume the office he holds. The removal of the fairness doctrine had very severe impacts for America and the World.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    “The President in particular is very much a figurehead—he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had—he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud.”

    Zaphod lives

    Nate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,011 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Is there evidence of retail investors buying the dip being MAGA throwing in their life savings? What are they buying, Tech stocks?

    If I'd seen Trunp, Musks or whomever post asking them to then yeah likely, but I don't think they'd do it off their own volition - if anything I'd have thought they'd be doubling down on Gold which they've been huge on recently

    (It might be they are doing this, I'm just saying I haven't heard anything on the likes of CNBC mentioning it when watching while the slumps were happening on Thursday and Friday)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Does anyone think an attack on Iran is imminent?

    Would that put the present tariff situation /stock market fall into the shade?

    I hear there may be quite a build up of forces going on now (and Netanyahu is in Washington)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Trump is using the excuse we must ptotect the Jews to stop any protests against the government genocide in Gaza .There's a good article about this at nynag.com The IDF is executing aid workers and ambulance drivers in Gaza No person is safe in Gaza except maybe foreign press reporters .Jewish leaders should be speaking out against trump and supporting the right to protest . America is turning in to a police state ypu can say anything as long as you don't criticize trump or the Israeli governments right to kill innocent people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,075 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Seattle


    I don't follow this thread very closely so just a quick question.

    I'm aware there was a handful of Trump supporters on here. Are they:

    A) admitting that they were wrong and Trump is very bad

    B) Still trying to find whatever angle they can to defend/support him

    Or

    C) Disappeared, likely too embarrassed to be seen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,124 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Mainly B and C.

    In relation to the latest disaster he started, this is the evolution of the responses to criticism of tariffs....

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭Jizique


    China imports rather little from the US; on cars, BMW exports around 15k SUVs and Merc 65k, but the US guys don't have a product that sell there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,078 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    They will, maybe even can't, ever admit they were wrong or Ttump is bad. Because to do so now would raise the serious question of why now when the evidence was overwhelming before.

    The only real explanation, and we see posts like the one above about people looking to destroy the establishment, is that in reality people really liked him and far from fearing what he might do they hoped he would do it.

    The only difference is they thought he would do it to others. Not them. Their support for Trump is not built and getting inflation down or gas prices, its about getting back at other people.

    So they welcome these tariffs, not because it will do anything to benefit them, but they see it as getting back at others.

    And they will continue to support him bacause they believe that once he deaks with all the others they will get all the benefits. Despite there being evidence that Trump doesn’t care about them and isn't remotely concerned, he says he is and that is enough for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Field east


    Does it matter whether it is goods and/ or services. They both respond to the exact same thing WHICH IS MONEY - so , based on Trump’s ideology re his tarriff calculations he is totally WRONG to have excluded the value of services in the calculation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Cushtie


    But if market won't bear a retail price of 21.60 then the retailer won't stock them at that price, so either the retailer, importer, or exporter has to take some of the pain. So importer goes back to exporter and demands a lower price of 8 for the t shirt, or will find another supplier who can. That's how it hits the exporters. So now the trade deficit is narrowed. It's not all one way Trafic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,826 ✭✭✭threeball


    This Senator Ossoff is like an Obama clone but white. His speaking, right down to his cadence is like an Obama mimic. I reckon he'll be the one who gets the push.

    Obama was popular when he first arrived on the scene, he'd have been a hell of a lot more popular if he was white.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Tech stuff, maybe right. Ag imports dwarf them, though China's been buying them elsewhere since Combover Caligula started his first go at a trade war in 2018:

    (goog)

    'In 2021, the United States exported $36.4 billion worth of agricultural products to China, setting a record and making China the largest export market for the United States for the second consecutive year.
    [Soybeans accounted for nearly half of these exports, with a value of $16.4 billion], surpassing the previous year's record by more than $2.2 billion.
    Other significant agricultural products exported from the United States to China include beef, with export value reaching a record $2.1 billion, and cotton, with export value reaching its second-highest level at $2.7 billion.

    However, China's agricultural imports from other countries have also been increasing. For example, Brazil has overtaken the United States as China's largest supplier of soybeans, with Brazil's share of China's soybean imports growing to 76% from 46%.
    Similarly, Brazil has also become China's top supplier of corn.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,124 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Just read a few MAGA responses on Thread. We have now reached the "well - your kids don't need expensive iPads and iPhones so stop complaining" level of discourse....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Almost all have disappeared. A few are left but they aren't making a huge amount of sense from what I've seen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    I am talking about who is the leader of the DEMOCRAT party NOW....specifically with a view to 2028!?! Any ideas?

    I'm well aware of how the primary system in the US works thanks (the system under which Kamala Harris was NOT chosen by the Dems). And there's nothing in the system that prevents the people running either party from deciding now who they'd like their candidate in 2028 to be.



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