Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

i let israel off what hook in which post exactly please.

how about hamas did i let them off a hook too.

women children and the elderly arent going to stop an army. its shameful to not help them to leave. no matter the reason.

i would say that if youre down to this level that you have either lost or that you need a radical new strategy.

You're the one who has lost the plot. Why should Gazans leave their homeland? The would have perfectly usable hospitals but for the Israelis deliberately bombing them all but at least now they have been caught out in their lies for sure and the world is wakening up to the genocide. Odd that you didn't mention how Israel is responsible for the hospitals being unusable.

Ambushed and executed Israeli style. Hope there's more Arrest Warrants issued now. Definite War Crime with video evidence for the world to see. Israel is a failed state without humanity and people wonder why Hamas exist. It is precisely this kind of act that enabled Hamas to exist and it explains why Hamas are so murderous. Israel is the monster that created the monster.

Most noticeably in europe the Germans

Is this the same IDF that pulled guns on Israeli Police so the lads who anally raped a Palestinian prisoner with an iron bar could escape? Is the the IDF you're talking about? Nothing "stands to reason" in this conflict - just like murdering 15 humanitarian workers, burying their bodies in the sand and not letting anyone in for a week.

And sure, why not go the whole hog - the whole incident is made up. The lads tied each other up and the sole survivor shot all his buddies then buried them, and the vehicles.

The fact anything reported about this incident is in doubt is sheer naivety. The IDF have a lot of corroborated form in this regard.

From 2007 to 2024 that was not the case.

The IDF said a thorough investigation is taking place

Laughable.

it stands to reason the IDF will do the same if there has been a war crime by IDF personnel

Yeah, like this one maybe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2

We don't yet know what the soldiers' side of the story is.

We do. If you'd been paying attention you'd know that. They said the ambulances approached with lights off. Not only were the lights on, but the personnel were wearing high vis jackets etc.

no winning with you guys.

if i was pro one side i would simply say it.

There were 17 years prior in which to act.

is it theirs? is it israels? should they have to leave? should israelis have to leave?

i dont know, i dont care. that argument is a waste of time. it leads nowhere, hit me up in a year see if im wrong. best of luck banging your head off that wall.

egypt building fancy skybars on the 60th floor of a multi billion dollar project and looking down onto their bloodied neighbors behind their locked border for the last 17 years however is a shameful thing. regardless of whos to blame or your bigger picture.

is it not?

I see alleged War Criminal #1 (still on the run) is so concerned about the hostages in Gaza that he's extending his hollybops.

Presumably he'll book out another swanky hotel suite again.

I guess its one way for him to avoid attending his Corruption trial.

The White House confirmed that Netanyahu is set to fly to Washington to visit Trump on Monday.

This is the "Hamas strike on Israel" thread - perhaps you should start a new thread on Egypt seeing as they appear to have you so rattled?

I'm very straightforward.

I don't infer anything and I like to be very clear in what I post.

So let's be clear here. YOU are coming down on Egypt (your expressed reason for being here) for not taking in the people of Gaza, despite the obvious result that would see Israel moving into the vacated area, more than likely, on a permanent basis and leaving Egypt with 2 million refugees to house, also on a permanent basis. You believe that it's "shameful" that Egypt doesn't do this, to use your word, while at the same time playing evasive games with regards to the other parties involved, claiming that it's "pointless" to condemn Israel or HAMAS. You're happy to roundly condemn a minor player, whilst prevaricating about the major ones.

I'll be further straightforward with you, your short run of posts here are littered with weasel words and are highly confrontational for someone who's just joined the forum. You appear to be taking umbrage that other posters have disagreed with or questioned you on your position up to, and including, accusing people of being obsessed, closed minded and paranoid.

If all you are here to do is "express frustration with Egypt" and "nothing else", well then we all got that.

….and sometimes people just can't face up to the obvious.

Very few truths from the IDF and very little if any punishment for their crimes too. Seems to be policy.

Poor attempt …