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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Yep so today is even worse, what an achievement

    Fear and greed index even lower than 2008

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    During the election, there were many headlines about various economists and economic institutions which said that Harris's economic plans were far far better than Trump's. But so many swing voters either didn't see them, didn't believe them, or just chose to ignore them. The anti-expert rhetoric by some of the dumbest members of the GOP probably didn't help. Now they are all suffering from the consequences of that ignorance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,873 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Trump destroys the markets by applying tariffs worldwide ..somebody buys a lot of stock ..Trump negotiates and tariffs are dropped ...stocks go up and somebody gets rich .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Scott Bessent saying the market drop is in response to China's DeepSeek AI tool released earlier this year and not Trump's tariffs.

    I've a feeling even die hard MAGA's won't believe that shite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    You mean building the robots in the magical new robot factories, the robots that will be building the cars in the magical new car factories.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    10 trillion dollars wiped out since January 20th

    They can blame whoever they want, the cause is obvious



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,112 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Ted Cruz saying tariffs risk Republican seats in the mid-terms.

    When Ted Cruz is saying that it means there must be real concern in the Republican party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Apparently a sale of Tik Tok was in the works to be announced today and Trump was going to make an announcement about it but China blocked the sale going through because of the trade war and Trump had to instead extend the moratorium on it being shut down by 75 days.

    Middle East, Ukraine, Tik Tok, the great negotiator has negotiated nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    It's like giving a box of matches to a kid in a fireworks factory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Theyre making a personal fortune the Trump inner circle..…They're doing it in plain sight. Eric out yesterday urging people to hurry up and start negotiating



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    How can his cabinet get rid of him, I thought he'd have to be impeached (again) and then have the senate vote to remove him?

    He'll never resign, he'll never be removed, he'll either die in office, or finish his term and whatever happens after that

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Will those stocks go up?
    The US is burning through political capital even faster than financial capital

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    25th amendment. There is no necessary "proof" of inability required, just that the cabinet agrees.

    I forgot about the impeachment process to be honest, but it also won't happen.

    The only remotely plausible thing you could expect would be for the House to cancel all the tariffs by law, which is not only in their power but is the right and proper way to do it as the President's power is an emergency one. But I don't even expect that from the cowards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    You mean Lyin Ted?

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If Congress cancelled the Tariffs, half the American public and 85% of the american media would declare that they were just about to work and if they just stuck with the plan Trump would have made America great again

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,644 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Also Donald Trump Jr will make a run for the next presidency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Behind it all, the Democrats too are happy to let disaster unfold for their own gains and hedge their bets on November 2026.....while they do absolutely useless **** like celebrating a pointless 25 hour filibuster!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Ok, so you berate the Democrats alleged uselessness. What do you suggest they should do, given their minority status in both House and Senate?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,314 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It also seems to be that Trump didn't anticipate China hitting back immediately with huge tariffs. Not entirely sure what he was expecting, but the word is things didn't go to plan for him.

    Edit: it appears he was convinced that China wouldn't retaliate, but would instead seek to open negotiations.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Hah, the Trump family may be seeking refuge outside the US if the current turmoil continues indefinitely!

    I think a lot of people have become complacent in recent years and don't recognise the carnage that can unfold with a stock market crash. They're used to a couple of days in the red and a nice bounceback. We'll see how Trump fares if there is a sustained sea of red for a few more weeks if he fails to back down. His beloved DOW could be 30% off it's YTD high fairly sharpish, which will focus minds I suspect. The markets have bent many a US presidency beyond breaking point in the past and Trump will be no different.

    The Republicans lost the White House for 28 years after 1928 and it's not beyond the realms of possiblity that the same sort of hardship is about to be foisted on the US economy.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Well their message probably shouldn't be "tariffs are good, but he's not doing it quite right" for one. Absolutely braindead messaging. But there is a significant cohort on the left in the US who also love tariffs and protectionism.

    Though in a practical sense they can't practically do anything to stop this disaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    I have already posted in this thread about what they should be doing. Which is doing exactly what Trump would be doing as one of the top news stories every single day if he was targeting 2028 and there was currently a Democrat president in the Whitehouse who is a convinced felon, who had launched his own crypto coin 3 days before inauguration, who allowed his billionaire mate to run roughshod over the government, firing numerous people who were investigating his businesses, who on this very night is hosting a dinner at Mar a Lago at $1 million to $5 million per plate (with another one coming up), who today was busy playing golf while 4 dead soldiers were arriving home.....I could go on and on and on. Where's the charismatic figure that people want to listen to? Where's the effort to appoint him/her the defacto party leader? All they're doing is pathetic ****. The filibuster was embarrassing, the pink clothes and stupid signs at the state of the union address made them look a complete shambles. Because they are. Trump is only president today because their own incompetence sabotaged their own 2024 campaign by not challenging Bidens candidacy from th3 start. They were and still are a shambles. Rant over.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Where's the effort to appoint him/her the defacto party leader? All they're doing is pathetic ****. The filibuster was embarrassing

    I mean, the filibuster was clearly an effort to push themselves into the spotlight. I find it a bit weird to decry that while demanding they get out there with their message more.

    The next Democratic Primary is going to be wide open. I know you've suggested this before, but the reality is that having a defacto party leader at this stage is more or less impossible. They need to rely on Schumer and Jeffries and unfortunately neither are very good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,873 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Don't know .

    Think unless he rows back soon to try to reverse this situation we may even see a move against him .

    Thinking now the best way to get rid of Trump is for the rest of the world to push back strongly ..now is the time .

    His Republican elite are out buying up falling stock and quite happy talking about" making the dollar weaker and 3 to 5 year plans to reshape the US economy" , and never mind the " short term pain " for ordinary people in the US !

    Hal Lambert now talking on BBC Newsnight, very chipper about it , big Republican donor and billionaire .

    Of course these carpetbaggers have been pushing for this ..Trump's their boy .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Respectfully....nobody gives a ****....or was ever going to give a **** about the filibuster.

    2 months after Bidens inauguration, The Republicans had a defacto party leader. Most people in the party should know at this stage who they want in 2028. They only people who won't get behind him/her are the handful who want it for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,589 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The issue with the filibuster is... he wasn't filibustering anything. He wasn't doing it to delay or stop a certain bill from being passed or similar, it was just entirely performative.

    Said a lot of very important things, but what did it actually achieve? F*ck all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,314 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Wall Street has suffered its worst week's trading in five years (the start of the Covid pandemic and lockdowns was the previous negative event).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,873 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    And most people could neither hear what he was saying nor could give a xxxx.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Baseball72


    You are 100% correct about the Democratic Party—it is utterly leaderless and without a vision. Biden's presidency was a huge disappointment, and no clear and obvious credible leader has emerged. Bernie Sanders is a good guy, but Americans would never elect him.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    They had a defacto party leader 2 seconds after Biden's inauguration. And 2 seconds before it. Because it was the same person who has been their cult leader for 9 years now.

    I'm sorry, but this is betraying a complete lack of understanding of how the Primary system works in the US.



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