Does the Le Pen Conviction Finally Prove Democracy is Dead in the West?

Democracy is a manipulative concept

Power to the people, it masks the fact that the people and power are as they have always been oligarchy only those in charge wield the power and only for themselves or their own interests.

Allowing the ants to cast a stone creates the illusion that this action represent me because I chose to cast my stone for those in power.

Democratic processes have always failed the people over time because politicians will use every opportunity to wiggle out of rules to push an agenda, remain in power. Chump and January 6th was the more blatant attempt at this.

Just finished reading Animal farm.the line in italics reminded me of a pice from it

Early on the one of the rules was

no animal shall sleep in a human bed

pigs then moved into the house and started sleeping in the beds

new rule

no animal shall sleep in a human bed with sheets

pigs didn't use the sheets😀

Sarkozy was convicted. So was Chirac, who you don't mention. The French are actually pretty good about prosecuting errant politicians.

I don't know who's telling your that Le Pen has been singled out and that her conviction was a stitch-up, but you should definitely stop listening to them because they are making you look very gullible, which is probably not the look you are reaching for.

It’s also a well established fact that the RN party’s coffers were bare a while back, and that a Russian bank loan (ahem, right…) filled them.

In another era, the Communist party in France was vilified for the very thing these guys are doing. The difference is they are now aligned with a trans-European right wing agenda, with Putin as an inspiration.

Would be interesting to see the EU parliament do an audit of some sort. I would be surprised if this wasn't the tip of the iceberg. Id say this sort of thing goes on whole sail for all sides of the political spectrum.

lol

Exactly.

Just like Alexei Navalny, Ekrem Imamoglu, and many before them, she stole taxpayers money and deserves her punishment.
(Unlike those two, you won't hear any outcry from politicians and NGO's on her behalf, strangely enough).

Unfortunately, if we go down the path of keeping people we don't like away from elections, then we may as well do away with the elections altogether, as we won't be living in a democracy any more.

As I said before you don't get to define democracy!

democracy/dɪˈmɒkrəsi/

noun

1. a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."a system of parliamentary democracy"

What are you on about? Democracy is well defined at this stage, it's been around for two and a half thousand years. You don't get to decide that democracy suddenly means "only people I agree with".

Le Pen directly challenged the rule of law in France and this is direct threat to their democracy

What utter rubbish is this? Does everyone who is accused of using taxpayer funds for the wrong purpose "challenge the rule of law and threaten democracy" Good Lord man, get a grip. If that's the case, there are plenty of FFFG politicians presently in the Dail who should be locked up.

As I've repeatedly said, Le Pen fully deserves any legal ramifications of her actions. But she no more "threatened democracy" than some lad lifting a bouteille de vin from his local Carrefour.

She is aptly named, "Le pen" is short for “the pen", as in penitentiary.

The writing has been on the wall since we were told to "go back and vote for the Lisbon Treaty the right way next time".

No, it wasn't, it really really wasn't, and Lisbon wasn't the first time.

The government are allowed run any referendum they want, and the electorate are allowed to change their minds.

Sure what's the point of having general elections then - we picked a set of TDs five years ago and now they want us to vote again 😛

Or - we voted on abortion in 1983, why did they make us vote again in 2018 🤔

Le Pen got caught with her fingers in the till, to NOT charge her because she's a politician would prove democracy is dead in the West

So - provocative thread title fail.

(Note to self - in future don't bother replying to posts which contain the word 'globalist' 🙄)

As compared to, for example, section 31 in the republic, which meant not only that elected members of Sinn Fein couldn't be heard in the Irish media, but also led to John Hume being abused and insulted by the Irish establishmdent for daring to speak to the IRA?

So, no. I would say that unless Marine Le Pen was found guilty on invented charges (which is unlikely given that other French politicians have been found guilty of similar charges in the past and been declared ineligible, it's no more the end of democracy than section 31 was. Probably less.

Why are you making stuff up?