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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yeah but all those people will have jobs building cars tomorrow in the magical new factories that will spring up from the ground so its fine……



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    If you remove the federal job losses the private sector losses for March are stable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    With all the doge work and tariffs, one things for certain is the budget deficit will be coming down bigly in the short term, Trump will call that a win and showing progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 996 ✭✭✭Detritus70


    So, if we ignore job losses, the job losses aren't as bad.

    Right.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,617 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Where does NI end up in this mad world where they export things as part of the UK but via Irish channels?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,829 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Only if they're Robot Programmers or installers….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Large scale unemployment caused by the government isn't a win for the economy...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭goldsparkle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭goldsparkle


    I am not following the news. I turned it off. It was on in the background a few minutes ago. Did I hear correctly about something. Is there 0 tariffs on Russia? Did I get that correctly?

    If this is correct - there is something very dodgy going on there. Apparantly Putin has dirt on Trump and there it is. I reckon there is something much more rotten going on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,092 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Feith was in the Pentagon and State Dept in Trump's last Admin, in this one on the NSC as Snr director overseer for tech & Nat Security, Walsh worked for Senator Rubio in the past and Broody in legislative affairs. They might be the first heads to roll over the "War Plans" disclosure to the media. The people with the "its a conspiracy" may have got a major toe-hold again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    US companies and consumers can't buy stuff from Russia due to sanctions. Only the government buys some stuff it needs. Tariffs don't make sense for heavily sanctioned countries.

    The news today is big enough without dumb conspiracy theories about Russia not getting tariffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭randd1


    I have absolutely no proof and this is entirely my opinion and nothing else, but…

    I’m convinced Trump raped and killed a prostitute on one of his trips to Moscow back in the day, and the Russians have held it over him since.

    As far as I’m concerned, he cannot have his ar*e pile-drivered by the Russians as often as he does unless there was something as serious as that over him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    That's correct, zero tariffs, not even the blanket 10%, despite (according to Trump's formula) Russia having tariffs of 570% on US goods.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Maxface


    What is the thinking, that they want to bring manufacturing jobs back?. USA unemployment rate is 4.1 which is very close to what is regarded as full employment. Where are the workers coming from? If you are a manufacturing company, and you are looking at those figures, it won't give you confidence that you will be able to staff your factories if you returned. Is this question being asked, have they answered?

    Is the plan to sack all the federal workers and retrain them into working manufacturing jobs or is the plan to sink the economy, loads of job losses, get the factories back and get back to full employment again. I don't understand the end game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Damien360


    For now it's stable. I work for a US multinational in the services sector. There is talk of job losses globally due to share price decimation by over 40% in a few weeks. Hasn't happened yet to us.

    Meanwhile my colleagues in the same sector in rival companies have shed 10% staff already. I meet them regularly visiting various customers. The vast majority of losses were US jobs. They are cutting R&D first because it's expensive with no return in the short term.

    The first response to poor share price is a board member leaving and soon after job losses. It's the easiest thing to immediately prop up profits by chopping staff. I always believe the board member stuff is a protest of sorts to save face. US staff have less legal protection than their EU colleagues so they are always first to go. It's coming !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Most of the MAGAs being marched out of their jobs for the last time will still think they've won against 'the establishment'. Too far gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭goldsparkle


    Very good point. I wonder will there be any room for negotiations and can this be raised with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭dinorebel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    The thinking is Trump is a big baby with a massive chip on his shoulder.

    Everything is centered around his own personal grievences.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,966 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    I’ll post this here also:


    Can the great and the good in this thread educate me please. 
    With regard to pharma, how do US tariffs have an impact on US companies based in Ireland? 
    Let’s take Pfizer for example, they export to the USA and make certain drugs in Ireland that they export from Pfizer IRE to Pfizer USA. 

    They will have to pay (potentially in the future) a 25% tariff to the USA government on the drugs they are importing into the USA from Ireland. 
    They pass that cost onto the USA customer. 
    The USA customer does not like this and reduces the demand for these drugs and actively looks for an indigenous drugs manufacturer to replace Pfizer. 
    This process takes years as a new manufacturing plant would have to be setup to cater for the demand for the drugs in the USA and replace the Irish manufactured drugs. 
    During this time Pfizer start selling into Canada, Mexico, Asia etc to cover the lower demand in the USA. 

    Prices don’t increase (bar inflation of course) anywhere else outside of the USA because…..well why would they? 

    In this scenario, why are Irish pharma jobs at risk?

    Surely the only loser in this is the American consumer through increased drug and health insurance premiums?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,923 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Trump was on there today saying these tarriffs are to keep imports out and to raise money for tax cuts.

    Hmmm, isn't that an oxymoron?

    Surely it's either one or the other? Can't have it both ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Hes happy to talk about extraordinary offers from other countries anytime



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I do find it sort of funny that we're still trying to treat Trump as a rational actor at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,722 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    That is exactly what dictators usually do.

    At present he has created an alternate reality of " the enemy " which now includes EU because it is a strong voting block and doesn't align to his values .

    This is nothing to do with economy and all about exerting control over democracies and institutions that have influenced world peace since the 1940s

    I would not be surprised if indeed he did manage to somehow pull off another term in power , and / or he will most likely set it up so that one of his sycophants can continue on his autocracy after this .

    I recognize this sounds like conspiracy but in order to be a CT it would have to contain more probabilities and maybes than actual situations and real life events .

    Just remember how surprised we were over this side of the world when he became President in the first place , when he refused to speak out against extreme right wing racists , when he loaded the Supreme Court towards conservatism , when abortion rights were abolished in various US states , when he managed to wiggle out of numerous situations which would normally have ended a politicians career including sexual assault ,and treason inviting riot on the seat of government itself when he changed the rules so an encumbent or former encumbent of the White House was immune to prosecution ...the list is endless and is the road to autocracy .

    Why the hell wouldn't he change the rules so he or his choice can be the next and continuing President of US ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    This is all a starting negotiating position. He has already said today he is willing to do a deal with China on Tiktok in return for tariff relief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Also, any future notion that you must bend the knee to Trump goes out the window. He doesn't give a rats and will do what he wants anyway.

    Look at his two biggest European allies - Meloni and Orban. Just slapped them with 20% tariffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Thing is he's approaching allies like he's a mob boss extorting a business. That's not gonna be as effective as he thinks I suspect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,534 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    This is all a starting negotiating position. He has already said today he is willing to do a deal with China on Tiktok in return for tariff relief.

    China may not be willing to do any kind of a deal after he acknowledged Taiwan as a sovereign state.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭pad406


    He's a bully. There are countless stories of his businesses screwing over the little guy after the work has been done.

    He thinks that as he's now POTUS he can do the same to EU, Canada, Mexico, China etc.

    Me thinks he's in for a very rude awakening



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