Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

The source of our prosperity is mostly the United States, not the EU. The figures don't lie. It's not just about trade per-se, it's actual wealth transfer. Have European companies invested hundreds of billions of $ in this economy in the last 30 years? Oh wait, no they haven't. That would be US companies.

Which country is responsible for the bulk of tax receipts in this country across the board (income tax, VAT, corporation tax…)?

I'll wait.

Cory Booker's anti-Trump speech surpasses 24 hours on the Senate floor.

Happy liberation day everyone!

There,s a good article at Techdirt com about how many institutions in American are now giving in to trump The institutions that are in theory supposed to support free speech and the ability to call out politicans who are abusing government powers and suppressing the right to protest

Eg The normalisation of autocracy

II don't think google or Facebook will abandon Ireland they need offices in the eu for various reasons and they are following eu rules on gdpr data privacy .it's too early to predict what will happen with company's that make medicine

Novartis, Bayer, Astra Zeneca and Sanofi are European pharmaceutical companies long established here in Ireland and who have invested significant money in their facilities over the last 30 years.

All American pharmaceutical companies are long established here and not just Ireland in terms of being based in the EU. These companies also have facilities in Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Italy, Germany, Austria to name a few.

These are global companies with global markets. They know they can't have all their manufacturing facilities in the US only and exporting at ridiculous prices. They'll be left behind as the rest of the world would begin using cheaper alternatives.

Including the tech companies, they are based here, yes primarily for the tax benefit but they run their EMEA (Euorpe, Middle East and Africa) divisions. They are not going to take this back to the US.

All these European facilities, that from a green field site can take over 5 years to design, build, and qualify before going in to production have been around for a long time, a lot longer than a 4 year sitting US president and they will not be shutting down so stop with the hysterics.

This discussion was brought up the first time around with Trump. There will be a lot of soundbites, companies will give him what he wants for optics and lay low until he's gone, just like 2020 and everything took off again. Him and his administration are a stain to American and world politics.

I see them blaming Soros for the win.

While completely ignoring Musk and Trump.

It's pretty clear to all that you've got an agenda.... Maybe we should just join the US? Get ahead of Greenland?

Whats liberation day?

Govt. here don't seem to want to see much of an EU reaction, at least not right away (going by statements) + prefer "watchful waiting", talking to Trumpy so he sees sense etc.

Believe I heard SF (Doherty) on radio at the weekend making same kind of criticisms of possible EU reaction as his political mirror opposite here, Kermit.

(On latter) I suppose all the eaten Brexit bread is soon forgotten and we slip back into the usual SF anti EU positions they have held for decades.

A potential unintended consequence of all this would be Ireland shifting a little closer to the continent.

We've stradled the US/Continent divide well but I think we're starting to move more amd more towards US style economics/values.

I prefer continental economics/values myself. Once the EU sort out the immigration issues.