Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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Not necessarily. The EMA could inspect facilities in the US, India, China etc if they are supplying into the EU. Similarly, the FDA can inspect facilities here. In reality, they rely on mutual recognition agreements where each side will recognise inspections / assessments carried out by the other party.

No we are not, any attack on any country that is part of the SM is an attack on the SM thats why its called a Single Market and how it works.

How do people after Brexit and decades of EU membership still not understand how it works?

The same was said for BrexIt. The reality, it only hurt the UK.

This maga $hite is mostly the same type of ideology as Brexiteers and it's more self harming than anything.

I don't think this is the exact same as Brexit but similar to Brexit I'm happy to be on the EU side of the fight.

I think what you said ,is exactly what will happen.

Other countries are moving. Israel has removed all tariffs on US imports. Good for them and they get a big advantage over their traditional European competitor for US investment which is Ireland. Other independent countries will follow like the UK.

Meanwhile, because we surrendered our sovereignty over trade to the EU, we are going to be stuck in their protectionist morass with French wine makers and Germany car makers getting precedence over the interests of this country.

I find it stunning that if the US targets exports from Ireland specifically (which they can) that some here appear to believe that

1. It's OK so long as they jump ship to another EU country (we get screwed because 'EU' but that's ok)
2. The notion that Germany or France are going to take an extra hit on behalf of a tiny country they already think is a tax haven out of solidarity. Delusional.

This will end up putting severe strain on the EU because different countries have different economic interests. Our interests and ability to absorb tariffs are not remotely the same as Germany.

If the EU were to equally retaliate on behalf of a handful of countries we are being thrown under the bus because that damages us most again.

That brexit bus is due any day now to run us over ehh?

Ironically, I think you used to (around Brexit time, feels like an eon ago) use increasing globalisation and the restrictions the EU places on our ability to trade goods and services more freely with non members as an argument to leave the EU. Singapore on the Liffey or whatever.

Now that a new age of economic nationalism and imperialism seems to be dawning, argument is it would still be preferable to head off alone and do our own thing because…well we can be a much better doormat & supplicant to the US or perhaps China once we are not part of any opposing large bloc ourselves!

Sure it might be possible for individual members incl. Ireland to get a better "deal" off Trump going it alone and prostrating themselves completely - but it would be a deal with the devil I expect. They do not end well.

I dunno though, maybe the govt. could rock up and tell him + Bannon and the MAGA gang they'll do the necessary amd whip up some nominations to make sure the bould McGregor is free to run in the next Presidential election!

I find it stunning you are trying to peddle an anti EU agenda in the face of all the evidence to the contrary and not even trying to explain how an Ireland outside the EU would be better placed to weather this storm of economic illiteracy from Trump.

Desperate stuff altogether while somehow trying to pin the blame on the EU, Democrats ... anybody but Trump and his MAGA enablers.

You arent fooling anyone with this nonsense. You will drop it and run unable to offer any coherent response, a waste of your own time.

When you cant engage with rebuttals, it is final proof your claims cannot be defended in open debate.