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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭kk.man


    The game has change substantially. I drive a fair bit with work. I was driving through three different counties last week. I couldn’t but notice the amount of black and white cattle (not dairy) out in fields everywhere and I was thinking to myself if you saw this 25 years ago you'd come to the opinion these are not good farmers. I don't dislike sucklers but I can't see the margin I'd expect for my time in them. Sure they are some great cows in some herds producing a great calf every year.

    The u grade meat in factories used to end up in high end markets in Holland and Italy. Unfortunately the big money is in the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Sodbuster66


    Dairy men are doing very well at the moment, more luck to them, what with sucks and cull a great trade, milk doing well and good demand for any surplus in calf heifers. Dairy in a great poisition at the moment as they don't really have the huge cost of restocking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    That is why it's best to go the whole way to the hook with your stock, that way you get paid for what you produce. But in fairness quality suckler bred weanlings & stores are making a fair premium in the marts at the minute too.. little Chx bullock in Carnaross today around 300 kgs making €1,800+



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Unbelievable prices at the minute, long may it continue. Trump Traffifs now incomming which will hurt the dairy sector more so than beef or sheep. Pharma, Medical Devices and Tech IP also in for a big hair cut.

    Ireland and the government may be dam well glad of the beef, suckler and sheep sectors going forward!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭kk.man


    We are only small fry in comparison to what they take/have taken in on Corporation Tax every year. ABP has a turnover of 2bn while total Corpo Tax yields 25bn approx to the exchequer. This is going to be serious.

    Friend of mine trying to sell a house in a town where two US multinationals are based, its on the market last four weeks and no bid. Two months back it would have been gone in two weeks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Circa 16 billion paid in wages by American mnc's year too, the contaigan effect like above re houses not selling/investments been put off, are where the damage will be seen straight away, and not in immediate job losses/corporation tax receipts falling etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Kerrygold butter exports are the only sticking point re dairy exports to America, any co-op heavily tied up and not able to divert milk to other products will be hit badly, other than that America isn't a key destination for Irish dairy exports



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Even the protein products and the colours/food ingredients are at risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,207 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    No but if the EU retaliate they could put tariffs on maize and Soya imported from the US. In Ireland we are more exposed than the rest of the US on this

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Interesting to hear that. I think they're may well be a serious recession on the horizon. Hotel prices, tourism, and the contagion effect from these tarrifs in terms of US MNCs and in particular the Tech IP being reshored back to the US is very serious. Time will tell, ATM I am delighted selling half finnished friesen bullocks for €1850 at the mart and 44kg lambs for €200, "we all partied" - famous last words!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Have a couple of small bullocks a pt and bb they was 400 and 450kg respectively. I didn't push them over the winter I just stored them with the intension of letting them out to grass with the dairy beef weanlings I bought last year and bring them through to finishing next winter hopefully. but as the prices are good now should I sell them now or should just hang onto them as they value will only rise as the year goes on hopefully. They are not fancy types that's why I was happy to let them lie on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    let them out to grass if you can. No talk of any drop - actually it’s about how much they’re rising is all I hear



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    Difficult to advise anyone on it now as prices have never risen as fast before. Could last 2 years or 2 months. '

    'Where there is a boom there is always a bust''

    My gut feeling is they will try pull the prices in the not so distant future if the numbers are dropping. This will push lads to off load.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭148multi


    Depends, are you going to replace them, if not stocked tight give them half a kg while at grass and they'll be fine lads next July.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭limo_100


    That's what I am thinking have found them lads hard enough to shift other years so decided earlier to bring them to finish but thinks have changed now

    No I wouldn't replace them and I also wouldn't be under any pressure keeping them either Il be giving them a kg when the get out anyway for a few weeks just to settle them anyway could keep a half kg going over the summer no issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I let out 5 380-400kg bulls just giving them a small bit of feed for the first few days to settle them down they where mad after coming out broke all my fences down 10k volts and all anyway have them settled now. have them on good grass now want to get them 500-550 kg and then decide to either sell them or finish them they are 11 months old I have being talking to a few merchants and some say to use an 18% protein others say 14% I was thinking 16% myself as I don't want to over flesh them as they are still growing. what do people use?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    If you mart them I definitely would not be pushing them. They will go back abit after letting them out anyways. As you have them on good grass a kg or 2 of bull beef nut or ration at 12% protein would keep them nice and help to keep them quiet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Hopefully not too much they can still come back in and have access to silage if they want. Would 12% not be too low and too much off a starchy diet for cattle that age - I think 12% is too low of protein 14-16% would be a minimum I would have thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭148multi


    I would go with 18% to push growth, 12 to 14% to fatten, but grass this time of year is fairly high protein anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    Good leafy grass in April and May is normally high in Protein and I think it could be 20% and over. I let out weanlings this week. They got about a 1kg or so each of bull beef a long with good silage all winter. The bull beef is 12% protein. They are in lovely order and a great shine off them. I finish a few cattle and rather having 2 types of meal I just buy the one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭148multi


    Yes i had it in my head as 22% for spring grass, but for growing a frame protein is far superior.

    I use a bull nut here for weanlings that I'm selling as it puts great hair and shine like a milky cow would, but if I'm keeping them I feed the higher protein.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,120 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    thing to remember is that excess protein is broken down and passed through the urine so if you give a high protein meal to cattle on spring grass you are literally pissing your money away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭148multi


    But if you feed 12% to young stock that can utilise higher protein efficiently , you're restricting their potential growth and ending up a smaller animal.

    But feeding it to older animals would be exactly as you say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭limo_100


    that’s what I’m afraid of. I think i will put them on a 14% bull nut to help them reach there potential also the grass has lots of protein for them. I have them on weanling krunch just at the min to settle them just basically because have some of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    3 yearling heifers in Ennis today.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭nearlybreak




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭nearlybreak


    Factories trying every trick in the book to pull back the price of cattle today and still heard of two factories that hadn’t enough cattle to kill today 🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣one well known factory only had 67 cattle after cattle not showing up and an artic them went to the north of the country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Sold one FR heifer in Kilkenny, she weighed 575 KG, 23 months old made €2,150



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Yes i see the dairy men are back buying heifers, pricing us poor beef finishers out of the game. I couldn't touch anything dairy today. Anyway fair play.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


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    The record this spring



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