Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

Sleep out on Wednesday for support of Austism services. A small amount of that money would go along with away. At this stage i’d nearly start an NGO in aid of them.

Migrants are found at Irish ports because we are a soft mark country.

Just say nothing and have no documents that can identify them or their country of origin and there is zero chance of being deported.

Oh and let's not forget we have political parties like Labour, the Soc Dems and PBP who don't want to see anyone removed from here.

These immigrants are poor and at the same time rich.

These benefits are generous but not when you are Irish, only if you are not Irish living in Ireland are they generous.

Oh yeah bad faith arguing.

Indubitably!

I never said they were in power, I'm pointing out their views and policies on immigration.

Do you as a leftist agree with them?

The date (6 days after the attack) and the section (not front page). The GoFundMe was started on the 24 of November (day after attack).

https://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-caio-benicio-a-pint

My feeling is a big part of the money given was to also signal we're not racist (which is good), just the guy who did the saving was overlooked. I mean all this is in the public domain and probably off topic here so hopefully that is all the questions answered.

You don't ever see that many on trucks at ports the same as the scenario you posted without proof .

That’s one article. He didn’t get near the same coverage as Caio. Same applies to the young french chef. That’s all stating. now as pointed out it’s going of topic.

Being poor is irrelevant for Asylum purposes. Billions of people are poor in dysfunctional countries but have no right to claim asylum.

Name one NGO that you think it would be fair to say "that chill all public debate"

And we can discuss in the context of that specific example what "chill all public debate" means?

Otherwise I will assume this is just the usual conspiracy theory waffle.

Does anyone posting disagree with legal immigration it's irregular migration and lack of control.

Well first of all you have to look at who signed us into this without giving the electorate a chance to have a say on it, Helen McEntee. Then look at her less than stellar handling of immigration in this country, also the fact that she seems to be a creature controlled by immigration NGOs. Nothing they wanted was too much trouble for her to try and introduce.

We are going to be on the hook for taking an immeasurable number of people claiming to be refugees, or if we don't then we will be forced to pay €20,000 per individual per year that we refuse to take. All this when, we have an ever growing housing crisis, lack of infrastructure both social and physical, and are already paying at least €2 billion a year warehousing the ones we have already, 80% of which the government acknowledge are fake. While the government are **** themselves as the hit from Trumps tariffs knocks at least €18 billion out of the economy. Add the net zero extra costs taxes that the government will be pushing. They have already mooted that we will be fined up to €20 billion by the EU commission.

That's before any "cultural differences" are taken into account, you know little things like some new to the parish have to be taught that you can't rape women. Both Norway and Finland had to give classes to immigrants on how to interact with women after a series of rapes by immigrants in those countries.

IMO, this isn't a migration pact, it's a national suicide pact.

So even if the person claiming asylum is aware that they are not meeting the criteria for asylum and is costing the taxpayer in the 18 months its taking to run through all appeals tens of thousands that's just ok, that's just our legal obligations we should not fret over it. Even if that cost is over 1.6 billion euros.

You think that the 85% are not fleeing war or persecution you think they are fleeing poverty. So they are not being truthful about the war and persecution but are being truthful about fleeing poverty. Again you cannot accommodate everyone who is fleeing poverty that would be around 2 billion people in the world- fleeing poverty is not a grounds for seeking asylum in Ireland or anywhere in Europe for good reason given the numbers. It would destabilize the entire continent of Europe if that was a ground for seeking asylum. So you are saying there is no responsibility on the applicant to apply in good faith, there is no personal responsibility, everyone on planet Earth has a legal and moral right to apply for asylum and should be allowed to apply regardless of their motives, whether they are economic migrants or not?

It’s the eternally optimistic notion from the left that everyone from every country on the planet espouses the exact same virtuous values of kindness and honesty they themselves espouse that has us in the mess we are in today. That is absolutely an ideological view that is pushed by the many many NGOS who have protested over the past few years and influenced government decisions on the many pull factors I've referenced many times on this thread. The denial then of any impact on homelessness on housing on hotels on communities on Tourism the absolute gaslighting of the people who said no we don't want our community to be changed to lose hotels to lose tourism and yes to lose that sense of security that every single person with any modicum of sense would have if you moved in tens or hundreds of men from many different countries with many different values, not all cultures are as tolerant and progressive as ours. Everyone is referred to as racist or far right to the point now where the words are meaningless.

Not factually correct though, every radio station and newspaper spoke about Caio very few mentioned Warren/French Chef I understand the reasons why given the climate at the time but there's no denying the huge push on the narrative.

The victim's gofund me received €270K

and the hero receives €370K…..