Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

Are you saying that that the vast majoirity of asylum seekers are not genuine asylum seekers and we should deport them to their country of origin. Are you saying these people need a deterrent to stop showing up here and seeking free bed and board from the tax payer as economic migrants in the guise of asylum seekers. What a dog whistle to the far right...

So would you agree then that our IPAS system is not full of honest people who are fleeing war or persecution.

That the vast majoirity are here on false pretences they are lying about the circumstances surronding how and why they arrived, they are appealing and our government eventually allow them remain on numerous grounds other than the actual asylum claim they made which only they could have known was false.

If 85% are rejected at first instance and the government are spending billions making multimillionaires out of hoteliers and large landlords then 85% of that money could have been spent elsewhere. Not to mention the damage to social cohesion that a government policy of "landing" hundreds of people into communities can do.

Communities that know the vast majority of those staying are economic migrants, that are having a significant impact on their towns and all paid for by the people themselves who are protesting. The cherry on top is the fact that these communites/taxpayers are then called racist for saying no. The bigger cherry on top is there are counter protests by ngos who are funded by the government to implement the government policy.

Michael.Martin said majority are economic migrants

Also they have the parents and grandparents arriving in force now aswell

I find it a shame the man who stopped the stabbing got very little attention.

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/wicklow/west-wicklow-news/wicklow-dad-tackled-childrens-attacker-in-dublin-school-stabbing/a23948908.html

Yes, the Brazilian guy did good. It's a pity the bulk of the mainstream media choose to try to make him the hero of the event though rather than reporting clearly on how the stabber was stopped. Did one of the parties even try to make the Brazilian guy a politician, or did I imagine that.

He did good but it seems he was used for an agenda afterwards.

I was addressing his one-sided portrayal of immigration when he brought up that incident. You might also notice I said ' helped stop it ' . I know this nuance is lost when a gotcha is smelled. Nuance generally goes out the window on this issue.

You didn’t imagine that. He also got over 300k in a go fund me. The Irish man and woman and young French guy didn’t get the same attention

It looks like Kinvara and Carna in Galway are both getting IPAS centres. These are very small villages particularly in the case of Carna which is also a Gaeltacht area. It really beggars belief at this stage. The demographics of these small towns and villages is changing overnight. How anyone can stand over it is simply unbelievable.

Funny also that the Gort area of Galway which would encompass Kinvara would have overwhelming voted FF/FG in the last election. Plus ca change

2 go fund me's were set up following the incident 1 man from Brazil received great notoriety from the press and the narrative was hit hard to counter the obvious potential fallout from such a horrific incident happening.

One man's name was published in every papaper as the hero. CAIO received €370,000 from that go fund me. He was selected by Fianna Fail to run for local elections getting 3% of first preference in a constituency where Malachi Steenson was elected.

Warren disarmed the man and received little noteriety and €16,0000 from his go fund me.

Siobhan Kearney was hardly mentioned as was the French trainee..

Nuance is lost when there's a narrative to be controlled.

For what it's worth they were all extremely brave and undoubtedly saved lives it would have been nice if they were equally rewarded for their bravery.

The Algerian attacker was here playing the system and milking us dry. The Brazilian guy was here working hard. That is the big difference between the 2.

Sunday times today reported we are spending 2 billion a year on housing IPAS applications while meanwhile the Irish cancer society were trying to raise a fraction of that yesterday , 30 million

Nah the Irish fella trying to claim credit for it sounded like a chancer in my opinion

Sure what's a couple billion between friends