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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    If a trump forces his way into a possible third term, would that not open up the door for Obama to enter the race.....might not be so bad, unless of course they have the votes cast and counted before it even starts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Harris didn't lose because she is a woman in my opinion. She lost because she was a poorly chosen candidate for all sorts of reasons - not very inspiring, generally uncharismatic and, critically, tied by an umbilical cord to the Biden administration policies. Her message could not be anything other than "more of the same".

    I have no difficulty believing that if Michelle Obama had been the nominee she would have won comfortably.

    The blame needs to be put where it primarily is; the incompetence of the Democratic party in the run up to the election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Suckler


    The blame needs to be put where it primarily is; the incompetence of the Democratic party in the run up to the election.

    Still trying to spin this gibberish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    I've seen comments like this for years and I still fail to understand how people can view Trump as charasmatic.

    Even if he had a morsel of charisma, how could that lead people to ignore his long list of painfully negative qualities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Suckler


    I have no difficulty believing that if Michelle Obama had been the nominee she would have won comfortably.

    And this is also dumbfounding. You have no difficulty “believing it” because you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to Trump and US politics.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Hodger


    That old saying about the law of unintended consequences comes to mind sending Japan and South Korea into Chinas arms. If China : South Korea and Japan forge ever closer trading and economic ties in the longer term as a result of trump's tariffs. Here is another unintentional consequence that might concur is the defence of Taiwan if China decides in the next few years that they feel its the right timing to make a move on Taiwan. If Trump decides to intervene and help Taiwan fend off an invasion. He may very well be doing it alone: if both South Korea and Japan have deepened trading and economic ties with China over a longer period of time wouldn't it also make it less likely they would help Trump defend Taiwan ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I think it's likely Michelle Obama would have walked the election and her refusal to run is seemingly the root of a rift between her and Barack.

    Harris lost primarily because Trump managed to tie her to the inflation during Bidens term. That was the key issue. If the Dems had selected a charismatic individual that could legitimately and credibility promise change, they'd have won



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,687 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I think America would vote for a woman. The margin between Hilary and Trump was quite narrow, even despite Hilary's campaign being mired by the FBI investigation. Hilary actually won the popular vote. I think however, a woman and a person of colour was a bridge too far. At least in the current climate.

    Add in to that the shambles that was the start of the Dems campaign - Biden is running for a second term, with Harris as his running mate, actually no he's not running, Harris is running instead… Facepalm territory.

    Why the flip did they not get Mark Kelly to run. All around American hero. The world would be in a lot less turmoil right now if they had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Michelle Obama might have walked it, but I don't think she would have made a good president, much as I like her, she is, I think, an honest, dignified, very intelligent woman, but she is not political and did not want to be president.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,832 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    How do you explain him finishing effectively neck and neck with establishment Democrat candidates with infinitely more impressive CVs in actual politics three elections in a row then? I mean one might be a fluke but he must have something that can rally 45%+ of the electorate every time..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    This is BS and absolves entirely the throwing off of any moral compass or sense of duty post Jan 6th that the Republican party could have in any way claimed they possessed.

    The Democrats have plenty of faults, there are plenty ahead of them in the line for who is responsible for Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    Harris: I'm going to expand on the federal legislation to prevent excess price gouging on essential food items. I'm going to build 3 million new homes over the next four years. I will cut taxes for middle income families. Here's my plan to further reduce prescription drug costs. I will increase corporate taxes to fund further investments.

    Electorate: Hmmmm I'm not so sure, you don't seem credible despite you being a former successful attorney General, and you say you'll make the rich pay more and cut taxes for less wealthy people in society. I'm not going to vote for you.

    Trump: I'm going to make eggs cheaper on day 1. CROOKED BIDEN. Hunter. Bengazi. ILLEGAL ALIENS. THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS AND CATS. Barack Hussain Obama. She's pretending to be black.

    Electorate: wow, you're so articulate, you seem like a man of the people, sounds good, yes you're a 6 time bankrupt businessman, yes you've been impeached twice, yes you've been convicted of rape, fraud, and embezzlement to name a few. But you're going to make eggs cheaper on day 1, you're my guy, here's my vote, I trust you with our economy.

    Day 1: no reduction to eggs prices, continue to soar

    Day 10: egg prices continue to soar

    Day 25: mass layoffs at the National Advisory Committee on Microbiological Criteria for Foods and the National Advisory Committee on Meat and Poultry Inspection, the agencies tasked with scientific research and preventing the spread of animal diseases.

    Day 38: USDA begins to contact European countries, practically begging for eggs. Egg prices continue to soar.

    Day 70: Trump doubles down on his plans for sweeping tariffs, US economy teetering on the brink of recession.

    It really is an embarrassing indictment of the stupidity of the US electorate when more than half of them voted for the most idiotic and disgusting examples of a human being.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    It's painfully obvious why, they didn't promise to lower the price of eggs on day 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    That 6000 dollars on average for average car added to every car would buy years of egg consumption



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,032 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Never, on any occasion, did Michelle Obama express the tiniest fraction of being interested in actually running for office.

    It's complete fantasy talk to suggest that she was in any way in the running to do so.

    And I don't have any particular need to defend her and her relationship but suggesting the person who NEVER wanted to be President didn't attempt to do so because of a rift between her and what to all intents and purposes seems to be the other half of a loving and committed marriage is turgid nonsense straight out of the likes of Alex Jones' mouth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,714 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    …and what's even more insipid is that his fans are still trying to blame the Democrats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭Jizique




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,868 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    If only humpty dumpty would do the same, the world would be a saner safer place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Other things are falling sharply too. Makes the eggs seem even more insignificant.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,687 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Walmart today: 18 eggs $11.52 which in euros is €10.65 : "https://www.walmart.com/browse/food/eggs/976759_9176907_1001469"

    Tesco today here in Ireland, 18 eggs: €3.75. https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/314707485

    I think they could fall sharply quite a bit more before anyone starts celebrating. Though with the Dow falling sharply too it wont matter.

    (By the way I picked the 18 eggs as the packaging is almost identical. )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    I reckon the first female president of the US will be a republican, i think a democrat and a lady would be too much for alot of Americans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,921 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    In reality it may actually take both parties running a woman candidate for a woman to win an election over there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Yup, hillbilly dudes wouldnt like a feeemaaaale tellin' um whut to dooo...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    You know what, if the options were Marjorie Taylor Green or Pete Buttigieg, MTG would win.

    After seeing how trump got elected, I wouldn't put it past the US electorate to elect her. She's a bonified idiot, like Trump. She's anti-trans rights, like trump. Shes pretends to have Christian values, like trump. She's a bully, like trump. Is devoid of empathy Etc etc etc.

    Pete is credible, articulate, charismatic, intelligent, empathetic, however, from a right-woke POV he's a 'LGBTQ+' man. Republicans foam at the mouth at the thought of a gay man as president. They said Obama was the antichrist, Pete would inherit that title.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Niki Halley seems to be distancing herself from maga of late… I wonder if she is positioning herself for another run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,921 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Uh-huh...and couldn't be havin no wimmin-folk with their pretty fingers on the nuclear buttons when it's that time of the month either 🤠



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Rampant voter suppression and disenfranchisement. Over 4 million voters were struck off for the 2024 election, primarily black and other Democratic leaning minorities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭thereiver


    The stock market is falling as they see trump is causing chaos by putting tariffs on most countries and starting a trade war This will increase the cost of all imports and the manufacturing of cars and other products in America as the stock market falls it reduces the value of 4o1k funds that most Americans rely on to pay bills in retirement .

    This is going to cause 70s style inflation , stagflation eg high prices inflation and falling employment no,s

    Universitys are having to reduce staff no,s and cut certain subjects like arts philosophy eg as they react to cuts from federal agencys and lack of funding for low Income students

    Trump wants to cut regulation and tax's for all corporations but this does not help the average worker

    Theres not much positive for most people from trumps government in terms of living standards or stability of employment.

    Some people might approve of trumps crackdown on immigration. Irish people who do not have visa are afraid to go on holidays as they might not be allowed to go back to where they live in America.

    See YouTube or search this week in tech leo Laporte podcast audio

    Ai is going to be a problem it has the potential to replace millions of jobs there seems to be no laws in America right now eg ai bots can copy all data from websites writing art videos podcasts

    Trump gets donations from big tech he s not in favour of regulations on crypto currencys or Ai like chat gpt

    Doge is closing down local offices that really n social security payments it's going to be more difficult to apply for pensions or other payments in the future



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Stock market going down faster than a porn star on a Trump and now rumours abound that China, Japan, and Korea may have reached an agreement to collectively respond to Trump's tariffs.

    If that happens America is fùcked



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