Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

xboxdad · 31-03-2025 02:13PM

They let me renew over the phone very easily. (18 months, same rates as quoted above)

They did point out that standing charges will likely increase mid-contract.

Sure Thing · 31-03-2025 02:39PM

Hi

They said standing charge same as last year (pictured) which was 387.37+vat ,= 422.23 incl for rural day night on a MCC02

OmegaGene · 31-03-2025 02:48PM

Jesus that’s very high, my standing charge is €237 inc vat with flo gas

DANNY2014 · 31-03-2025 03:08PM

306 last year standing charge flogas rural incl vat standard 24hr meter

borus22222 · 31-03-2025 03:16PM

Hi All, I'm also considering if to extent. For long time I had an old meter which was turning "both ways" as ESB didn't change for few years it even with PV panels (4.6kw) on the roof. Last year they changed so have to reconsider my options. I have a PLug-In hybrid car with 13kwh battery. I have a 4kwh battery which is connected to the PVs.

I was thinking of getting one of those EV tarrifs - charge the battery and the car at night and use it during a day.

The feed in tarrif appear to be more than the night one - so in theory can I charge battery for cheap one and "sell" it for higher tarrif?

Even with Flogas night 12.79c vs FIT 18.5 - Or there are few hidden charges in there?

Any advise would be appriciated.

bonjurkes · 31-03-2025 03:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314269#Comment_123314269

Are you sure? I think mine was something like 257 or give or take inc vat. Currently Energia Axa deal's standing charge is 236.

OmegaGene · 31-03-2025 03:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314348#Comment_123314348

here’s my contract info

Lad GAGA · 31-03-2025 03:23PM

Just renewed the BWG offer over the phone as others have done. 7.9 incl VAT for gas and 24.03 for electric, with standing charges etc of 151.18 and 257.38. 18 month fixed rate contract, was only waiting for 5 minutes on the phone. Happy days.

bonjurkes · 31-03-2025 03:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314359#Comment_123314359

just checked mine : DG1 24 HR AFF fixed Elec 12 Mar24 NB

257.37 inc VAT, 24 hour rate 0.2344 inc VAT

Gerlad · 31-03-2025 04:02PM

As others have just got mine renewed over the phone at fixed rate of 24.03c per unit for 18 months and standing charge of €257. She did say standing charge may change depending on the rate ESB charge them for something which will be reviewed around October.

POBox19 · 31-03-2025 04:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314082#Comment_123314082

Very different. Some are offered a new contract over the phone and others told to wait for an offer by email. Is Flogas cherry picking the customers they want to hold on to?

bonjurkes · 31-03-2025 04:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314469#Comment_123314469

I wonder if the standing charge "refresh" would hit to Energia or not also. Currently based on my usage, Energia is cheaper, but as everyone knows there will be VAT increase in May, so it will bump up prices in Energia also I believe.

Muahahaha · 31-03-2025 04:44PM

Flogas EAB is €1,303 a year on that deal whereas Energia is €1,210. Whereas Flogas is fixed rates v Energias variable. Assuming Energia will rise their unit rates by 10% at some point during the 12 month contract it seems much of a muchness.

autumnalcore · 31-03-2025 05:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314523#Comment_123314523

I have a heat pump use about 12,000 kwh they'd be mad not to keep me.

bonjurkes · 31-03-2025 06:19PM

Also to remind, there will be VAT increase on electricity bills around May if I’m not mistaken. That would bump up Energia prices a bit but as Flogas is fixed, they shouldn’t get affected by this.

But I also wonder if standing order update on October would cause contract breaking condition and let us check for better deals then.

bren2001 · 31-03-2025 06:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314832#Comment_123314832

That’s incorrect. Flogas unit price will increase with the VAT change. The fixed rate is on the pre-VAT cost

Depending on the wording of the contract, they may be allowed increase the standing charge. You’d need to read it.

state_side · 31-03-2025 06:50PM

anyone renew successfully for the day/night/peak rate smart plan for BWG over the phone today? Last year rates were .24/.187/.284 and SC 289 all inv VAT

v10 · 31-03-2025 07:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123314035#Comment_123314035

Not me anyway !

Sheep Shagger · 31-03-2025 09:34PM

Given my contract has been extended until mid April think ill wait to see what the new BWG offer looks like.

Why are people renewing without finding that out as a matter of interest?

Coyote · 31-03-2025 11:06PM

Prices include vat

BWG Electricity 18 Month Fixed Energy

24hr Meter
Day Unit Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 24.03
Night Unit Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 13.35

Night Saver Meter
Day Unit Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 26.49

BWG Gas 18 Month Fixed Energy - 18 Month Contract

Gas
Unit Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 7.90
Standing Charge (Fixed) Annual €151.19

BWG Dual Fuel 18 Month Fixed Energy - 18 Month Contract

Gas
Unit Rate Cent per kWh 7.90
Standing Charge Annual €151.18

Electricity
Day Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 24.03
Night Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 13.35
Standing Charge (Fixed) Annual 257.38

Night Saver Meter
Day Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 26.49
Standing Charge (Fixed) Annual 331.33

BWG Smart Day/Night 18 Month Fixed Energy - 18 Month Contract

Day - 08:00 to 23:00 (Fixed) (excluding Peak) Cent per kWh 25.94
Peak - 17:00 to 19:00 (Fixed) Cent per kWh 25.94
Night - 23:00 to 08:00 (Fixed) Cent per kWh 12.79
Standing Charge (Fixed) Annual 331.33

BWG Smart Dual Fuel Day/Night 18 Month Fixed Energy - 18 Month Contract

Gas
Unit Rate Cent per kWh 7.90
Standing Charge Annual €151.18

Electricity
Day Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 25.94
Night Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 12.79
Peak Rate (Fixed) Cent per kWh 25.94
Standing Charge (Fixed) Annual 331.33

BWG Smart 24Hr 18 Month Fixed Energy - 18 Month Contract

Day (Fixed) Cent per kWh 23.44
Night (Fixed) Cent per kWh 23.44
Peak (Fixed) Cent per kWh 23.44
Standing Charge (Fixed) Annual 257.37

18 month contract with a fixed contract end date of 30 September 2026.

• This is a fixed energy contract meaning that the energy component of the unit rate and standing charge are fixed for the duration of the contract, but regulated pass-through charges may change. If we need to adjust these rates because of regulated charge changes, we will write to you 30 days in advance of the change

• A 14 day cooling off period applies which starts upon the activation of your services. Early exit fees are not applicable during this period.

• An early exit fee of €50 per fuel applies where services are cancelled by you within the minimum term.

Buffman · 31-03-2025 11:22PM

FAO 'BWG Staff' on the 31/03 contract, it is now safe to switch but from others very helpful posts it appears to be now worth calling them first.

OmegaGene · 01-04-2025 02:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123315269#Comment_123315269

the new prices are in the thread and that’s what people are signing up to 👍🏻

Simi · 01-04-2025 03:55AM

If those rates are correct then according to energypal based on my usage, the difference between energia's smart data plan and flogas smart day/night is negligible. 18 months fixed rate is definitely preferable.

Can you sign up to the flogas smart day night plan with a standard 24hr smart meter or do you need one of the newer day/night variants?

Roberto_gas · 01-04-2025 06:04AM

Gas Contract Start Date:	31/03/2025
Electricity Contract Start Date:	31/03/2025
Gas Contract End Date:	30/09/2026
Electricity Contract End Date:	30/09/2026
Gas Account Number:
Electricity Account Number:
Tariff Name:	28% Gas & Electricity 12 Months

what?? anyone else get the email with renewal?

No mention of fixed price

jaffa20 · 01-04-2025 06:11AM

No 24 hour rates? I guess the day/night rate is not a smart plan. It is more expensive for me that the moment than Energia offer especially with the high standing charges, but i guess a fixed rate is peace of mind.

Sheep Shagger · 01-04-2025 07:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123315522#Comment_123315522

Ah ok I thought i read in the thread that an email was still to come, or is that just to renew online (so the only way to renew as of now is by phone)?

OmegaGene · 01-04-2025 07:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123315638#Comment_123315638

different people are getting various results according to the thread

pacman114 · 01-04-2025 07:34AM

Not much difference in the new Flogas deal vs the Energia AXA deal by the looks of it? Are BWG Flogas people switching or staying put?! I'm on a dual fuel 24hr plan atm

OmegaGene · 01-04-2025 07:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123315682#Comment_123315682

well it is different for everyone really and depends if you want 18 months fixed price

bren2001 · 01-04-2025 07:54AM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41604355.html

reduced vat rate to be extended.

silly in my opinion but it does mean lower bills for a few more months

Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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