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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Show me where I mentioned “drilling oil” .

    I never said that - you’re ranting at me - I’m done here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    They nominated the wrong black woman. Mrs. Obama would have obliterated The Chump.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Bloomberg ringing alarm bells that Trump went after entities that give clear economic data (can’t have a recession if there is no figures to support it … like Russia)

    And even more worryingly attacks against FTC and Fed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    You said "America has already said they wanted to drill there". They certainly did not mean they wanted to drill for Uranium ore.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,615 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Say boring instead, because that's what it is…

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod: @Cluedo Monopoly and @Oscar_Madison can the two of you please move on?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,617 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6otZO0m-dgU

    Not normally a big fan of The Bulwark, but this is a good take. It's absolutely mental the language used while they want to annex the audience



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,015 ✭✭✭JJayoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,617 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man.

    Keep toking Kermie:-)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Here's something I've seen mentioned many times. But it's the first time I've seen a newspaper print it...

    This is probably the method Steve Bannon was alluding to when he referred to Trumps third term the other day.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14536307/Trump-term-2037-simple-loophole-Constitution.html

    The dismissal of the 12th amendment is ridiculous nonsense!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Maxface


    Must be a weird feeling to see and hear people fighting over control of the very country that you live in. You see Trump and his underling Vance gaslighting everyone on the situation in Greenland while you are sitting there wondering what the hell is going on. Would be worrying to have that all that playing out in front of you in real time.

    This is a turning point in history. This will be a chapter by itself in the history books in a few decades to come and is still obviously writing itself, might even be a few chapters. A turning point for the EU, for decades a decrepit and ineffective world power, itself just an economic gathering. Now, though, its big brother has called its bluff, turned on them, and with it has forced the EU to start looking inward and realise that the decades of economic union have left it very much like a one-trick pony. This will be the golden era starting for the EU, a very much needed intervention that is very much not the intention of Trump. It will become much more self-sufficient to the detriment of the USA and will turn the Union, in my opinion, into a powerhouse.

    USAID will also be a turning point for countries all over. For years feeding off the teat of the US, this turning point will show up the unreliable nature of the current US regime and means that these places will look elsewhere. That political power that the money bought will turn away from America to others. Years and years of building up soft and hard power was instantly wiped by a hate filed Sharpe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Its a ridiculous suggestion as there is no reason for the elected president to go along with it.

    Trump is in such an unhealthy state it's hardly out of the question that he doesn't even see out this term.

    Trump only gets a third term is if he somehow gets everyone to roll over for him to get his way outside the law. This won't happen even in the spineless republican party as there are enough with ambition for the hot seat for themselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,094 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Is it possible that Trump knows the GOP may suffer losses in Congress and that is why, as mentioned in the media, he cancelled his plan to appoint the sitting NY congress member - Elise Stefanik - to the position of US Ambassador at the UN.

    Next week, Florida will hold two special elections: One in Florida’s 1st congressional district to replace Matt Gaetz, who resigned to become attorney general before his nomination flamed out; and another in Florida’s 6th congressional district to replace National Security Adviser Michael Waltz. Next weeks results might show Florida is not a sure thing for Trump and the GOP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,979 ✭✭✭✭looksee


     the EU, for decades a decrepit and ineffective world power, itself just an economic gathering. 

    Decrepit suggests something that was sound and is now deteriorated, but it never set out to be a world power, though it could head that way if Trump makes enough of a shambles of the US. It was not just an economic gathering, it was intended as an economic union that would maintain peace in europe through economic co-operation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Wow ! Sounds like Trump has turned against MAGA !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Laying it out there for all to see before executing the plan - you can’t say they don’t do what they say they’ll do, that’s for certain 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Maxface


    Money = power. That is a major part of the reason that Trump is using tariffs. An effective economic tool that is used by him to get others to bend to his will. At the time, of course, the idea of a Union between neighbouring countries to maintain peace and to leverage the combined economies against comparative economies is a world power in an economic sense. It expanded to where it is now. Even the mere thought of a country bordering Russia joining sent shivers down Putin's spine. All of it to what end, though. When it came to a crux in the road, it showed exactly the EU for what it has become. That has spurned the current reaction, 800 billion in defence spending as an example. Of course, it never set out to be where it is now, but nobody thought a person like Trump would be elected to be president of the USA a second time, never mind the first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    One thing's for sure, whatever he does Irish retail and hoteliers will use it as an excuse to increase prices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Prices are up anyway - ironically Trumps tariffs may well reduce prices in Ireland - less jobs means less demand means lower prices



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,130 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    "Nobody can do anything about it"

    You're wrong on so many levels, at this stage I kinda hope the US do invade Greenland, it's about time they were taken down a peg or 2 and shown that they're fùcked if they do decide to go alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    I'd imagine the elected president on this scenario would be Don Jnr. Not Vance. Trump has already said he won't endorse Vance in 2028



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Why are people talking about the locations of factories?!

    Surely that's a 20th century way of looking at this.

    Is this (tariff war) not about where the Pharma and Tech companies IP resides?

    Locations of their factories are not relevant.

    There's a colossal amount of US IP in those industries that's tax domiciled in Ireland and that's what's in Trumps sights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Yes, it's in Trumps sights, but I don't think he can tariff IP. That's more to do with changing US tax code (needing Congressional approval)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The point I was making was If Trump decided to invade Greenland, using what ever excuse he wanted, those orders would be lawful orders to generals and soldiers (assuming he doesn't order them to commit war crimes or genocide on the local population etc…)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    But he doesn't need to tariff IP.

    The tariffs will have the impact of depressing sales and share price of eg Apple.

    Apple and similar companies are then incentivised to relocate their IP to the US so that the iPhone is now a US product, not an Irish one subject to tariffs.

    Is that not how this works?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,825 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Eh no. Apple doesn't make any Irish made iphones. The physical product (subjected to tariffs) is produced in China.

    The iPhone is a Chinese made product. Tariffs are based on country of origin. If I, in Ireland sold a Chinese made widget to an American, it would be tariffed as a Chinese product as the tariff is based on the country of manufacturer and not the country who sells it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    And in what country does Apple book their profits?

    Surely that and the country that applies the corporate taxation is the number 1 issue between US and Ireland, not the location of factories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,694 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    AH NO that is not how it works.

    If a product is made in a say Ireland, regardless of the company IP is the product is still made in Ireland and will be subject to tariff for imports from Ireland



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Nobody will endorse Vance in 2028. The man has already proven he is unfit for VP. And there will be no 3rd term for a Trump. Zero chance.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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