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Come back Garron Noone! **Mod Warning in Post #654**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    The plethora of hotels that are used to house immigrants, while homeless irish people have never been afforded such relative luxury is proof alone

    There are more than a "few" foreign people. There is a large amount.

    It is naive to expect no criminality, but that criminality should result in expulsion from the country.

    A zero tolerance policy would mean that any person who has travelled to this island and doesn't abide by the laws should be removed and put back to where they came.

    And no Noone didn't say all of what I said, but his point stands that ireland has a problem with illegal immigration and that any voice to the contrary is picked up on by idiots who rush to label those voices as bigots, racists or any other disgusting label.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    It’s almost refreshing to see a poster being so upfront about their racism and hatefulness, and not bothering with the “I’m not anti-immigrant but…” nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    A lot of alarmist hyperbole in your posts. It's clear you are not coming at this from a balanced viewpoint.

    I haven't seen a single person disagreeing with the fact that illegal immigration is bad nor have I seen anyone disagree that exploitation of the welfare service is a good thing either.

    But you don't seem to want to address the other assertions made in Garron's post. Insinuating that immigrants are to blame for reduced quality-of-life of the average Irish person (complete nonsense), immigrants are to blame for cities and towns being less safe (utter codswallop) and a non-existent increase in crime.

    And here lies the issue: racists and bigots will lead with something reasonable, something that people will generally be on the side of, like not wanting illegal immigrants to take advantage of our weak welfare system, but will tack onto that a load of bluster, hate and absolute rubbish. And seemingly well-meaning and reasonable people will take the reasonable part of the argument to heart but carry with it the poisonous elements.

    And while they're being terrorised by drug-dealing scumbags in their estates, while the country is being polluted by Irish-based drugs cartels and criminal gangs, while an inept Government run our health service into the ground and sell off giant swathes of housing to outside funds whose only goal is to rent that property back to an already on-it's-knees populace for 3x what it is costing them per month in order to then buy more property and lock Irish people out of the market……………… who do we blame?

    Immigrants!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    None of your issues listed have anything to do with 'illegal immigrants '

    Homeless Irish people and families have been homes in hotels for years, well over a decade, don't know how you missed that.

    There is a 'large amount ' of foreign people? How many is that? What do you think is a large amount? And what is the issue with foreign people living here?

    Foreign criminals should be deported after serving a sentence, many are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    My point proven.

    I'm absolutely pro immigration once they have done so correctly and are a positive to the country. I am absolutely anti-immigration when done illegally or they are a drain to society or gaming the system.

    What a crazy and hateful attitude I have! 😆



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Imagine thinking that having to live in a hotel room, maybe a whole family in one room, is relative luxury!! 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Many are deported? How many? If not "all" then it's not acceptable.

    And no, I haven't seen vast amounts of hotels to be closed just to be appropriated to house Irish homeless people. I am aware that Irish people have been housed in hotels though, just not on that scale



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Yes. Relative. As in, living in a hotel room, and not on the street, is relative luxury. No amount of emojis will make that false.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    What scale? Ay idea how many Irish families have to live in hotels?

    You didn't say how many is a large amount of foreign people living here, or what the issue is with foreign people living here?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Did you miss the war in Europe that's been ongoing for 2.5 years? what would be your method of housing these refugees?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The plethora of hotels that are used to house immigrants, while homeless irish people have never been afforded such relative luxury is proof alone

    The only thing that proves is you made it up and then decided to publish it on here.

    It's the same pattern the whole time.

    But but but we are not allowed talk about things.

    It's tiresome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,035 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    No TLLS tonight for Garron



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭corkie


    And not on any other programs during the week, I guess even if he was asked, he may have turned it down! As he wants to move on from it.

    Irish Times Podcast yesterday:-

    What we've learned from the Garron Noone controversy

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    He's a comedian. Name one killed after online threats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Well he's got what he wanted out of it all. In the initial statement he said he didn't want to get involved in political stuff but couldn't help himself and proceeded to do just that in the same statement. Then the inevitable response of people supporting him and criticising him leading to him closing down his account. Usually that would lead people to think we wouldn't hear from him for some time but of course less than a week later he is back online and 'opening up' about the whole thing. Newspaper articles, online opinion pieces and podcasts dedicated to the whole storm in a teacup are still running. I predict another tv or radio appearance from him to discuss the whole thing before too long...even though we have heard his 'last word' on the matter. 🙄

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,782 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭corkie


    I questioned that myself. Because I didn't see him promoting brands and stuff.

    He just promotes his own merch

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭a2deden


    Lol his views are defo not mainstream. Im sorry a small town Ballina man is not the voice of reason, please stop trying to pretend just because he currently holds your views that they are mainstream



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭corkie


    Probably haven't seen them myself, because only was watching viral funny videos that other people shared on socials.

    Just found one that is labeled 'Paid Partnership'!

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    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Regardless of the rights and wrongs of what he said he'd be better off staying away from controversial subjects. Sponsers like An post and supervalu will run a mile if he becomes controversial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Garron to make his long awaited return tomorrow, lining out at full back for Mayo. He will be tasked with the impossible job of man marking David Clifford. Mayo fans hoping the considerable size advantage will work in their favour and Clifford will be too frightened to perform on the big stage. Mayo for the Sam thus year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Nope. He’s a comedian. And yet another one who won’t be killed after dumb death threats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    His views are not mainstream or the far-right, anti-immigration morons wouldn’t have come nowhere in the recent general election.

    But being from Ballina has nothing to do with that. That same small town produced the current Irish rugby captain and the first female president of this nation. Amongst others of note.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    I wouldnt. I would expect them to work and contribute to society and pay their own way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,407 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Irish people who don't work or contribute to society?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    Yes. Obviously there are people with disabilities who are unable to work and those genuine cases should be looked after. But people who are career welfare spongers are absolutely a liability.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    But people who are career welfare spongers are absolutely a liability.

    Why?

    I realised earlier this week that my most controversial opinion is that society should mature to accept those that don't want to be part of society for a while. It would be so more peaceful and accepting if it allowed people to not take breaks, however long, while society is still there, supporting them (and PAYING them!).

    There's more than enough money in the world, it's just being hoarded by a few.

    There's more than enough people that want to work & get their own personal value from their labour.

    "Career welfare spongers" as you so prosaically put it, generally contribute quite a lot to society, you just may not recognise it as such. Some care for children or disabled people. Some volunteer in their community. Some volunteer in homework clubs. All their money goes back into the local economy, which is more than you can say for the wealthier that invest their money or spend it abroad. I'm not so naive to see that some (a minority amount) take advantage. And to that I say, so what? They may come round, they may find their way to contribute to society, they may not. I can guarantee one thing though, regardless of what they do, society will not collapse, nor prosper because of the actions of a few.

    UBI for all!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    People who contribute to society are not people I would class as career social welfare spongers. I am talking about people who have no intention of working and expect everything to be handed to them.



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