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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It's for cases like this I support a zero refugee policy and very low levels of legal migration. We need a massive pause and we need to fast track remigration for anyone who steps out of line.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭engineerws


    I have a lollipop. I can give it to Bill or Bob but not both.

    Why can't it be both? it's not fair!

    Answer, I only have one lollipop not two. I must choose.

    Hopefully that helps to comprehend the situation of limited resources.

    Post edited by engineerws on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,561 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    To get away from puerile responses ...impossible it appears .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭engineerws


    You were the one asking the question. I thought an example might help to illustrate. We're not allowed to give anecdotes but perhaps if you spoke with someone either homeless, being evicted, or the relatives / friends of those people, it might help you to understand the broader situation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Absolute joke,the guy who made the threats to MLM and drew Harris gets 3.5 years and this sex abuser walks,something seriously wrong in this country.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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    Why read articles when you can be outraged by misleading headlines instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Hiya I'm native Irish. Can I have the lollipop please?

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,794 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Not if but when he does it again I hope the innocent victim or victims sue the government.

    He should be kicked out of the country.

    He is a predator and is dependant on handouts to live here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭tom23




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Did you, perhaps, notice an exemption Poland has on it’s international obligations due to its long land border with Russia and Babyrussia?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,561 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    The original post I was replying to as you know , was making a difference between homeless Ukrainians and Irish people ..there is no difference when someone is homeless, either to them or those who are helping them .

    Homeless people are ..homeless .

    Only differences are those we see being made here on this thread or on certain media .

    Try telling any person who is homeless you have no bed for them ..have you ever had to deal with any person in that situation ?

    No , chances are if you had you would not be continuing with what you are saying about there being a difference .

    Easy sitting at a desk on a keyboard and making statements like that , It's a different situation altogether in the real world when faced with anybody in dire circumstances.

    Now I cannot say for sure that that is you .

    As for me personally can you actually say that I don't know what it's like to deal with homeless people or that I do ? No you can't .

    So maybe stop with making it personal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭engineerws


    Your question was,.

    Why does it have to be either / or ?

    I'll go again. If Paddy from louth and Sean from laois are both homeless and there is one bed available in a hostel, they cannot both get the bed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Freight bandit


    Would I be right in saying that ireland is getting angrier with the government over this migration fiasco?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,322 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Interesting take by Douglas Murray asking if Denmark can nip the asylum issue, why can't Ireland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Mod Edit: Warned for uncivil posting and ignoring mod instruction re: anecdotes

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    And yet if it showed migrants were less likely to be in the workforce we would have the outrage about them sponging off the state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Just saw some bit from ESRI report about migrants in Ireland that has been highlighted in todays papers.

    Apparently 37% or Migrants spend 30% or more of their income on housing whereas it's only 9% for Irish people.

    Which I'm sure some idiots will buy into and think that's awful and how hard on people emigrating to Ireland .

    However this figure fails to take into account that a large number of young Irish people live with their parents so this reduces the money they spend on housing and a large number of Irish born people are in their 50s and 60s and above and so probably have their mortgage paid off and so spend little on housing.So this would explain the discrepancy between the figures, These situations don't apply to migrants.

    Emigrating isn't supposed to be a situation where the red carpet gets rolled out for you, it wouldn't be that case for Irish people who emigrate to other countries so why is this report implying that it should be the case for people who move here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Mod Edit: Warning issued for ignoring mod instruction regarding anecdotes



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    What do you mean by “nip the asylum issue”?


    We should do what Denmark are doing: speed up processing and deportation. That’s the solution.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    How many are being housed by government and work partime min wage jobs. Or live 3 to a room which is a great living standard to be setting.

    Depends on your outlook and what your use to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    They made it less welcoming for chancers, which are the majority of what we are getting now according to everybody. The prime minister has said they are actively pursuing a low refugee policy for the last few years (and has been called out by the EU over this) - one of the main policies that she ran under was to reduce immigration to the country. She has come out and condemned mass immigration to Europe and has specifically said it's a threat to the whole continent.

    Deporting is not the only thing they did. It's just a tool they have used to help them achieve what they have specifically set out to do, which was no doubt driven by the mess Sweden made of it while everybody pretended it wasn't happening.

    Whereas we have just gone along for the past few years pretending there are no issues, while the government and media have tried to label every person that spoke out and highlighted any potential problems as far right racists. And as seen by the link above we are still doubling down on the angle that people coming through proper channels to work are exactly the same as the 80% arriving that have no right to claim asylum (current figure according to the government themselves).

    Post edited by batman_oh on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    So what would happen if we ignore these so called international obligations.

    Probably nothing.

    Maybe a fine but so what it still would be probably only a fraction of what we have to foot the bill for as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,907 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Tourist numbers down 30% in February compared to last year, January well down too but storm eowyn didn't help there.

    Scary figures if they continue. We can thank our government for prioritizing the refugee industry and paying lip service to tourism. Like him or loathe him mc Gregors white house speech was seen by 60 million in a day n will no doubt dissuade a fair few yanks. Viral videos of incidents in Dublin recently won't help either.

    Has anyone checked in with Donald whether we still have billions to squander on the refugee industry?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Will never happen, our government are obsessed with being best in class and having world leaders blowing smoke up their asses. They will do whatever the puppetmasters in Brussels tell them to do.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I can’t tell you something. No one has ignored them before. Despite what the misleading headlines would have you believe


    Why hasn’t anyone? Because they are morally acceptable and we all signed up to them. So ignoring them is a broken promise. Are you ok with countries just going rogue?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I’m struggling to see how this disagrees with my post. Does it?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    our government, for all its faults, is just holding its word.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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