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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭howsshenow


    Intelligent presentation here on energy storage, Battery metals and designs etc

    https://youtu.be/P3xCc0tx55w?si=bGHYLqel8EhcEPut



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭gjim


    Of course my suggestion is absurd. That was the entire point?

    It was the logical conclusion to your absurd assertion that "Ireland would have no problems with Energy infrastructure if the Data Centres weren't soaking up renewable electricity".

    If you want to have an "honest" discussion, then this sort of daft claim isn't the way to start one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭gjim


    I dismantle way more cores in our various Hyperscaler projects each and every month than you used on-premise for your simulations which you mentioned last year.

    That's cool - happy for you and all but this is supposed to be a thread about energy infrastructure - could you start a separate thread maybe titled "I'm a big swinging dick" somewhere else? Cheers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Well at least we can agree on the need to expand our renewable energy infrastructure.

    We can have nice modern things once powered by a more sustainable renewable footprint.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 94,784 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    That link says while demand will go up 45% peak demand will only go up 24%. It means the transmission infrastructure will have a higher capacity factor. It means more demand during off peak , so data centers should be effectively subsidising grid upgrades.

    Data centers can do demand shedding, some can also send power back into the grid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,896 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Simplistic BS - in reality it means more fossil back up and higher energy prices. Wind powered spoofers like SSE etc. already signalling steep price rises over the coming months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Fossil backup is better than a 100% gas grid. A country of 5.5 million relying on gas use will raise electricity prices. Guaranteed.

    I never mentioned wind by the way. Your whiskey fuelled anti wind rants are predictable and meaningless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,992 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    France has achieved a zero CO2 grid and their electricity prices are 43% lower than ours, so your claim is fallacious.

    The average price per kWh, including tax, is 0.2016€ in January of 2024

    Ireland:

    In March 2025, the average price of electricity in Ireland per unit is 34.38c per kWh.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    France doesn't have a zero co2 grid. Carbon emissions from their grid is low but it isn't zero.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,992 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    In 2023, France produced more zero carbon electricity than the total amount of electricity France consumed. That fits my definition of a zero CO2 grid.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭millb


    UK grid 2025-04-07 151659.png

    UK grid this afternoon - massive PV - also importing a good bit

    low Gas compared to our 62% gas. I saw that Pakistan put in 22 GW of new solar last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,992 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    image_2025-04-07_163804099.png

    Meanwhile, somewhere more relevant… Burn that gas, baby. Solar is a risible 11% capacity factor in this country.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    NA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Careful cnocbui, someone might mistake your post as being in favour of solar 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 MichelDixNeuf


    Someone is in favour of more solar…there is money to be made.

    https://www.independent.ie/farming/news/it-could-lead-to-devastating-consequences-for-the-dairy-industry-massive-cork-solar-farm-on-top-dairy-site-criticised-by-local-td/a1229256620.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Looks like Sceirde Rocks project is dead

    The news website The Currency reported that sources close to Corio Generation had indicated recent survey work had meant it was not in a position to proceed.

    The company, owned by Macquarie Asset Management, has not responded to a request for confirmation from The Irish Times but it is understood that Corio has been in contact with the Government to confirm it is not going ahead.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/environment/2025/04/11/connemara-offshore-wind-farm-will-not-go-ahead-dealing-blow-to-governments-climate-targets/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭tphase


    Lots of happy people in the Carna region tonight....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭josip


    They might not have pulled out for the reasons given. A bit like someone who agrees to buy a house, can't secure finance and then uses things discovered during an engineer's inspection to justify the withdrawl rather than advertise they couldn't get the money.

    "Corio Generation said it plans to restructure its offshore wind development business to focus on a smaller portfolio of projects."

    "Last year, Macquarie started looking for buyers for Corio Generation. In December, Corio announced job cuts globally but these did not affect the Ireland-based staff.

    On April 8th, Reuters reported that Macquarie had cancelled the sale due to lack of interest from the market."

    I don't think there's anything unsurprising or insurmountable about the Atlantic around Sceirde Rocks. I just think it will take someone with deeper pockets than Corio to develop it and it won't happen before 2030.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,992 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I think storm Eoin and it's 190 kph winds put paid to OSW off the west coast, particularly since the models were thinking 230 kph might be reached. Eoin really put the wind up them, you might say.

    Any OSW off the west coast is likely to experience the sort of winds and sea conditions - possibly worse - that the floating OSW farms off Scotland experienced. Those were engineering disasters and proved existing turbines are not up to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    a fair summary, west coast off shore wind energy seems finished as I see it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Two different reports on Sceirde Rocks, citing a combination of engineering and financial constraints. Is there a facility under ORESS1 for either Arklow Banks 2 or Oriel to reapply if an approved project withdraws?

    Sunday Times

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    Renews:

    The site investigations are understood to show that the project, which already features tough rocky seabed conditions, is also affected by severe wave and currents.

    Sources pointed out to reNEWS that many of the challenges were known for what is considered the toughest of the Phase 1 schemes.

    Corio had been exploring gravity base foundations, similar to the ones at the Fecamp project off France (pictured), to unlock the project. It also holds an ORESS 1 contract.

    https://renews.biz/100032/corio-shelves-450mw-sceirde-rocks/

    SBP report on potential changes to stage 2 process

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    https://puc.ie/papers361/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,431 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    I think both Arklow and Oriel signed PPAs with data centres so don't need ORESS1 anymore. Though Oriel has been around since Gate 3 back in 2008 and never progressed, so who knows?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭tphase




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Rain from the West


    The Greenlink interconnector between Ireland and Wales is now online.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0416/1507996-ireland-wales-electricity-interconnector/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭Apogee


    An update of sorts on planning for Oriel, NISA and Arklow Banks. Lots of 'Further Information' requests on potential enviromental impacts

    They must address in more detail concerns raised by the National Parks and Wildlife Service about the potential impacts on birds such as the roseate tern, red-throated diver, guillemot, shag, gannet, kittiwake and sandpiper.

    Particular concerns have been raised about the effect of Oriel on the annual brent geese migration.

    A concern specific to the Arklow Bank is the potential impact of the existing small seven-turbine wind farm nearby – the country’s first and only offshore wind farm – in conjunction with the towering new installation.

    SSE, developer of Arklow Bank, has been told to examine the collision risks posed by two clusters of turbines of differing heights.

    Greater detail is also sought from all three projects on the likely impacts on seals and dolphins, fish and bats.

    The planners want more clarity on how the companies plan to manage underwater and airborne noise.

    […]

    Submissions from the Department of Transport raise concerns about ­access routes for the Irish Coast Guard’s search-and-rescue vehicles.

    Dublin Airport and the Air Corps are also seeking assurances around interference with flight paths and radar from the giant cranes that will be used during construction, and from the turbines which will reach 300-metres high when in operation.

    Meath and Wexford County Councils and Fáilte Ireland are worried about tourism, specifically the visual impact on Meath’s Brú na Bóinne world heritage site and Wexford’s renowned beaches. Wexford County Council has also raised “the potential impact on population mental health and well-being” from the “significant visual impact” on the landscape and seascape.

    The planning authority also wants more detail on the impact of onshore construction works on coastal erosion.

    Other issues include the effects on commercial fisheries, the Ireland-Scotland undersea gas interconnector and onshore traffic during construction. The companies must also address submissions from the Isle of Man, which has raised concerns about bird and fish life.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/offshore-wind-farm-rulings-on-hold-as-planners-request-further-information-on-impact/a1077117662.html

    Apparently ABP say the Sceirde Rocks application hasn't yet been formally withdrawn.



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