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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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  • #15782
    Dr Robert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295227#Comment_123295227

    Trump will have no problem firing people in his administration to deflectors blame.

    His first term was a mess. This one is going the same way.

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  • #15783
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295337#Comment_123295337

    Nobody is that stupid

    Oh, my sweet summer child. The people Trump has appointed to he highest offices of state are very much that stupid. They have one quality, and that is unwavering loyalty to Trump.



  • #15784
    Raichų
    Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    Of course trumps response to the whole thing is “a leak? Where? Will I call a plumber?” Brain dead.

    Quoted as saying;

    “I’m not a big fan of The Atlantic. To me, it’s a magazine that’s going out of business… but I know nothing about it,”



  • #15785
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,123 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295252#Comment_123295252

    its always been a rogue nation, this admin is just making it much much roguer!



  • #15786
    thatsdaft
    Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295371#Comment_123295371

    I disagree Under Biden the adults were running the show and US economy absolutely boomed by every metric possible despite him having to pickup pieces left by Trump 1

    Anyways your whole thesis falls apart with the use of word “state”

    The very idea of a state and a democratic republic is foreign to these clowns

    They want an oligarchic dystopia like Russia where ultra religious, neo Nazis, libertarians, racists and criminals are all United in their hate for anything that resembles a “state”



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  • #15787
    Dr Robert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Remember the big deal about Hillarys emails?

    This is way worse.

    I'd say China and Russia are pissing themselves laughing. Trump is an absolute gift to them. There's good reason Russia wanted him in.

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  • #15788
    Dr Robert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295354#Comment_123295354

    That loyalty will only last so long

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  • #15789
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,123 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295408#Comment_123295408

    virtually every previous admin were involved in shady global activities, in particular in maintaining global conflicts, including the biden admin, but to be fair, they were no where near as bad as trump admins, this admin is by far the most dangerous admin america has had in a very long time, maybe ever!



  • #15790
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,687 ✭✭✭threeball


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123293938#Comment_123293938

    They ignored an insurrection, something tells me this story won't knock a stir out of them



  • #15791
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,355 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Have any European leaders responded to the latest leak?

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  • #15792
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295512#Comment_123295512

    No need to.

    Stand back and let them implode.



  • #15793
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,850 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295354#Comment_123295354

    I think the answer to all those questions these days tends to be "no, even stupider".

    The military must be going bananas at all this, their lives and members of their force being put directly at risk with no checks and balances to stop the every deepening stupidity, incompetency and hatred (the trump admin has been breaking the law but then changing those in charge of pursuing the law breaking to avoid the repercussions).

    But we have a first hand example of this being slow moving enough that it is accepted as OK and full cognitive dissonance is in effect, which I can understand, as this is their livelihood and the hope is that in ~3 years those at the top will change and it will go back to "normal", but they have 3 years of being put directly at risk by people who a) don't care about them in the slightest and b) are too stupid to hide that lack of caring.



  • #15794
    Jeju
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Jeju


    This game me a giggle

    Screenshot_20250325_103219_X.jpg


  • #15795
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,355 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295537#Comment_123295537

    Are you suggesting a US military coup in offing, who will install a junta, to restore power to the people? 😛



  • #15796
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,354 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123294922#Comment_123294922

    Legal opinion on the first was that the use of a private server was not contraordained if records were being kept pursuant to the Federal Records Act. Signal is end-to-end encryption, basically a VPN, and it was presumably between government devices, so that implies compliance with the FRA.

    That at least some of them were using disappearing messages seems to contradict this surely? I have had to ask colleagues in work not to use disappearing messages in Whatsapp in our communication, it is plainly obvious they should not be used for these communications. It seems pretty hard to defend.

    I'm not remotely surprised it is wildly used and the rules and tools for communication are clearly outdated and cause problems. But surely you have to know when it is not appropriate and so carelessly allowing a bloody journalist into such a group is indefensible. It didn't occur to anyone to check the member list before discussing such operational details? Utter negligence.



  • #15797
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,120 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295148#Comment_123295148

    It's gas. To see something like this being hand waved away as an innocent "mistake" or something that's not really that serious is an indication of the blind support that this clown show has, whether that's from the hardcore idiots or the soft support from elsewhere.

    An NFL coach wouldn't carelessly tweet his team's bloody game plan for a Thursday night, but here we have high level heads within the US govt. blithely tossing out sensitive information to randomers on a group chat about where they're going to bomb next.

    You really couldn't make it up.

    The only thing that would have made this more hilarious is if somebody in Yemen had received the message too.



  • #15798
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,091 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295337#Comment_123295337

    On the stupid-unfunny front, I've no doubt that some on the deep-state conspiracy side of the Trump fanbase will be looking at Waltz through thick lenses, muttering about their usual fears.



  • #15799
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,850 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295548#Comment_123295548

    I doubt a coup will happen, right now the admin is too dumb to do anything that might threaten the medium term even if they are all about destroying the here and now in ways that don't benefit the US at all.

    But, if you're in the US military right now, you have to be questioning your function and worth and whether it's worth being pants'd by the government so frequently.



  • #15800
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295337#Comment_123295337

    no it wasn't deliberate attempt to spook Europeans or Egypt through a poorly engineered leak. If it was, there would have been no need to include operational details of the mission.

    Aside from the incompetence on display, it also shows that the contempt the Trump administration has for Europe is broad and runs throughout the top leadership. Lots of things can be inferred from the conversation but one is that if that the next republican administration is likely to be even more hostile to Europe than the current one.



  • #15801
    Oscar_Madison
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295337#Comment_123295337

    It has crossed my mind - there’s more than enough evidence there on the texts to support that theory and you couldn’t at all be accused of being conspiratorial in arriving at that conclusion, given what MAGA are capable of and have done to date.
    The texts are actually supporting and reinforcing MAGA’s own stated position on Europe so it’s actually advantageous to them to “manufacture” this “leak” - I’m leaning towards it was deliberate myself. If Waltz gets sacked, it will be a temporary measure unless he’s disliked internally and this is part of a ruse to get him out.



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  • #15802
    Economics101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I wonder how the Five Eyes are functioning now. Would you send anything sensitive to your US counterpart?



  • #15803
    ronjo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭ronjo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295641#Comment_123295641

    that is surely not true… They put details of an upcoming bombing on it.

    If its deliberate they arent doing that… what if the reporter leaked it in advance?



  • #15804
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,274 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    No, it wasn't deliberate, that is giving these people far too much credit.

    They are massively lucky that the number that was added was this particular journalist. It could have been anyone, and clearly, there are no ongoing checks to ensure security.

    Russia, China etc will now be looking to infiltrate these groups as clearly there are no checks in place to check the lists.

    Hegeseth should be gone. The man has no experience and clearly is not up to the job. He should have already submitted his phone, and any other devices, for review and a complete review of all communication channels should be already be taking place.

    Hegeseth cannot be trusted. This isn't a mistake that you can simply wave away and 'learn from'. Its 101, basic bloody operational stuff.

    Hegseth should be treated as the major security risk that he clearly his. And I very much doubt this is the only time, which begs the question just how compromised is he at this point? If we take Trump's lie, then Hegeseth didn't even own up to the FU, which makes it even worse. He either knew and buried it to save himself, or he didn't know and thus he cannot say with any certainty what other information he has compromised.

    JD Vance has also made a serious issue for himself. He is openly disagreeing with the POTUS and letting others know about it. So this is a two-pronged problem for Trump. Fail to deal with Hegeseth and he clearly has no care about the security of the US. Failure to censure Vance makes him look weak and as soon as the Mid-terms are done he is done as POTUS.



  • #15805
    Oscar_Madison
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,252 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295646#Comment_123295646

    Let’s me clear, it’s only a view I’m leaning towards- I may well be wrong.
    I don’t know the journalist but given his actions and discretion I imagine he was deemed trustworthy at the time - but yes, while you make the clear point that his addition to the chat was unlikely a deliberate act, considering Musk more than likely had a briefing on war strategy regardless of the White House denials, I don’t discount any levels of crazy at this stage- if you disbelieve everything issued from the White House, you won’t go far wrong 😂



  • #15806
    thatsdaft
    Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295642#Comment_123295642

    They are not

    Not that there is need for intelligence anyways, the clowns will just publicly share their plots

    https://news.sky.com/story/pathetic-european-free-loading-what-was-said-in-leaked-group-chat-13335365


  • #15807
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The message about countries in Europe freeloading is 100% correct and about time.

    Blame the messengers not the message.



  • #15808
    thatsdaft
    Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295707#Comment_123295707

    No it’s not, most of the shipping traffic in the Red Sea is Chinese and Russian dark fleet

    But hey not like you ever cared about facts

    You might also want to flip to the pages in history books about Suez crisis and US participation and pressure in it and their aims, they literally didn’t want Europeans to protect that part of world



  • #15809
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295734#Comment_123295734

    Europe has freeloaded on the US for defence since WW2. That is a fact, not a debate.



  • #15810
    thatsdaft
    Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295749#Comment_123295749

    You might also want to take a look at map at where the Red Sea is

    Your self loathing and traitorous hate of anything European (while looking at map also check where Ireland is in relation to European continent) has reached desperate new heights



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  • #15811
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,014 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123295753#Comment_123295753

    Ireland has been a freeloader as well, clearly.



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