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Eir - now offering 2Gb fibre broadband and new WiFi 7 device

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,461 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Set up the 2gb broadband with Wifi 7 today. Speeds are noticeably quick, getting 1.4Gbs download/200Mb/s upload over wifi on my laptop.

    Mesh is a bit tempermental. Green status light on the mesh box suggests its connected to the router, but it's not showing up as such as in the admin panel, and devices connected to the ethernet aren't being assigned IPs. Anybody have any tips?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Can you use it without the extender? It certainly seems to be a very troublesome set-up, I don't think I'd need a mesh system which would make it more stable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭limnam


    You could just use your own. Ubiquity kit is excellent and relatively cheap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭allen175


    Does anyone know what the login details are for the W7 Box?

    I have tried admin and the wifi password but that doesn't seem to be working, and there is no useful info on the sticker on the modem, just the SN, MAC and PN.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭heavydawson


    DOCSIS has a 10Gbit spec (4.0) since 2017. Comcast have been rolling it out in the States for a while:
    https://www.lightreading.com/cable-technology/comcast-ready-to-hit-the-accelerator-on-docsis-4-0

    Proof of concept work for 25Gbit DOCSIS well underway too:
    https://www.lightreading.com/cable-technology/comcast-charter-and-broadcom-take-aim-at-25-gig-on-hfc

    On everything else I fully agree 😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,461 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself



    https://192.168.1.254/

    U: admin

    P: on a sticker on the box (not the wifi name/password, underneath it, called "Box Password")



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭allen175




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    DOCSIS 3.1 theoretical speeds vs reality are somewhat different things though. When you add a lot of customers to a headend there’s shared bandwidth and spectrum limitations. It starts to get fairly pointless not to just go for FTTH - you’re getting down to having fibre almost to the house anyway - you avoid a lot of active equipment in the network. There’s also significantly more latency, which means for gaming FTTH has a noticeable advantage.

    Virgin is just ditching it as it no longer makes sense, particularly with when you get rid of DVB-C based cable and go for pure IPTV. There’s no longer any reason to have coax and RF if you don’t have any traditional digital TV service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Calebmcd


    My current contract with eir ends in December.

    What are the chances I can get upgraded from 1Gb to 2Gb? Extend the contract. Or will I have to wait.

    But by then they might lose me as a customer. Because I'll switch to whatever deal is best.

    I currently run 2 Tplink AX73 in easymesh. But the new eir WiFi 7 router looks promising. Id probably sell my Tplinks



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭feargantae


    They'll do it for you no bother. Ring 1901 and they'll offer it for €69.99 or sometimes €59.99 but if you ask to be put through to the loyalty team you'll get it for €49.99.

    It's a way to avoid the CPi increase until April 2026 too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    On the point of CPI increase, should everyone not have received their notification of how much the increase will be by now? I still haven't received anything from Eir to say how much the increase would be and it's almost April…



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    €4 for bb €1.50 for TV & €2.50 for sims each I believe. There’s no % increase anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Ah-Watch


    My contract was from last July and would have been a % increase unless they straight up moved everyone to the fixed cost increase vs %?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭KildareP


    We got an e-mail to say they were moving our own July 2024 contract from CPI % based to fixed annual cost, but the change meant we could exit the contract early without penalty. I wouldn't mind but the fixed cost increase they proposed was over double what the CPI % should have been and completely unwilling to recontract us at the new customer rate.

    Now back with Digiweb…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭NotShero


    If you don’t receive an email to say it’s changing to a fixed cost increase then they are keeping you on the CPI + % increase. I don’t know why they are keeping some on CPI + % and moving others to fixed price, allowing them to leave as the contract is changed. I think you get the email on around your bill release date, if they are changing you.

    https://www.eir.ie/annualcpiincrease/

    https://www.eir.ie/group/pricing/annual-price-increase/



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    honestly, if you get onto loyalty (especially contract expiring in July)- go for another 12m on same offer you can skip increases anyway. If you’re contract is consistently finishing in march each year you can do this indefinitely essentially.

    Sign up on or after march 1st and you will not have any API.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know it’s been a week+ since you commented this but, is this somehow an Eir-only problem? I manage the net contracts for a few properties and I’ve successfully upgraded 2 of them to 2Gb recently. Both NBI. One was Eir 1Gb to VM 2Gb and the second one was Eir 1Gb to Eir 2Gb. I’ve no idea what issue you’re referring to. The VM address I can check on the Eir website and it says 2Gb is also available with them.

    Bear in mind, from years of personal experience, Eir CS reps are notorious for making **** up at best, outright lying at worst.

    Perhaps I’m misunderstanding the issue as you’ve described it.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    I obviously wouldn’t know that one way or another.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well, you implied you knew more than you were saying. Someone, somewhere, has given you demonstrably bad info which you‘ve repeated here. Hence my query.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    I wouldn’t know what other providers can or cannot do and wouldn’t be in a position to provide information on that matter.

    You are free to think my information is faulty if you wish. I do not really care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    This is exactly why I'm avoiding the big players now. I'd love to have a true dual-stack IPv6-capable ISP but am not willing to put up with the annual price increases for it. Digiweb have been fine otherwise, have been with them for almost two years now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Altheus


    Is anyone else having trouble on their local LAN since migrating? My proxmox server is not accessible (connected to the 1Gbit port of the router) - loads then dies, as are a bunch of HTTP clients. I can't even log into the router without disconnecing the extender. FML.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭NBAiii




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭The Cush




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Some posters will be disappointed at just 250Mbps upload on the 5Gbps profile.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I read through the PDF document posted above and they make it very clear that the 2Gbps and 5Gbps profiles will only be available on the IFN Urban network and that the rural Gpon network is separate with no intention of upgrading these areas beyond 1Gbps. All very disappointing. You would think they would at least make it available to order for everyone and if someone like me ordered the 2Gbps profile that an engineer would come out and replace the black box on the pole and the ONT inside the house just like Siro do on their network.

    I just hope we're not waiting a decade or more for them to upgrade the rural areas. In about 5 years time 1Gbps won't be all that fast with multi gigabit speeds now widely available across all other networks including the very rural NBI. I understand they don't want to upgrade the entire rural network in 1 go but at least make it available for those of us who want it and replace the gear on an order by order basis.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Different networks.

    There are two parts to a PON FTTH Network:

    • The OLT, Optical Line Terminal, which sit in the exchange, this is where the fibre terminates on the OpenEir side.
    • The ONT, Optical Network Terminal, which is the box where the fibre terminates in your home.

    Note the following is somewhat of a simlification, see the link below for hybrid setups versus combo/flex OLT's

    In order to support XGS-PON and thus higher speeds, both sides, both the ONT and OLT, need to support XGS-PON if you want to get higher speeds.

    Now OLT's which support XGS-PON are backwards compatible with GPON ONT's. So a GPON ONT will work connected to a XGS-PON OLT and when you order a higher speed product they can just send out an engineer to swap out your ONT for a newer one that supports XGS-PON.

    However unfortunately the reverse isn't true, if the OLT's in the exchange are older GPON only models, then you are stuck at GPON level services, upgrading the ONT won't work.

    I don't work for any of these companies, just FYI. My understanding is that because Siro's network is newer it was all built with XGS-PON OLT's in the "exchanges", that is how they can just upgrade your ONT if you order a faster speed. For OpenEir, they have two different networks, the newer urban one which uses newer XGS-PON OLT's and the older rural network which uses older GPON only OLT's.

    You won't be able to order the faster speeds from Eir until the upgrade the OLT's in their exchanges. I assume it will come down to an investment decision by Eir to upgrade or not.

    Here is an interesting overview of how this works:

    https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/appln/FTTH-PON-Upgrade-to-10G.html

    BTW This will all be repeated in future when new PON standards come out like 50GPON and 100GPON come along, they will need new OLT's and ONT's on both sides.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    On the NBI network Nokia equipment is software upgradeable to 25G PON when required. That should be future proof for a few years down the road.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    this might be a question answered in the post and I do apologise in that case but if OLTs are at the exchange and they then bring fibre from there to the ont at home what are the boxes you see on poles etc?



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