Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Read OP for mod warnings before posting*

I have only seen positive comments in relation to Noone the problem I can see is certain groups and far right individuals are jumping on the bandwagon and sharing his video to kind of prove the agenda they are pushing.. not a good look becoming a poster boy for those individuals.
He got a certain amount of stick for his comments but the more the clip was shared by far right the more people got the hump because of what he said .
All good having an opinion but it would have been best not to share it on social media and stick to the comedy, because no matter his opinion he would have pissed off one side or the other.

Thanks @Snake Plisken For sharing the full video, I jumped into the thread searching for 'Garron Noone' and didn't see your video of it, (my security blocking embeds). If I had seen it, wouldn't have shared the clip, I did share.

Allot of hullabaloo over it and shame that he felt the need to deactivate his accounts. 'PC' Gone mad here!

"The government does not allow people to express their concerns about that…"

Immigration has been a dominant issue in Ireland for the last two years, despite the fact that it is well down the list of what people actually care about. Are you still going to peddle this line that no opinion is allowed? It's complete and utter nonsense.

We just had a General Election. It wasn't the big issue. A small group of hardliners want it to be a bigger issue than what is being presented. We have signed up to the migration pact. Charter flights for deportations are taking off. Processing times are (slowly) starting to come down.

I'd go as far as saying anyone peddling this line that no opinions are allowed after the last couple of years are actively lying.

"Ireland continues to be one of the richest countries in the world while people's quality of life continues to be going down…"

Absolutely f*ck all to do with immigration. Misinformation and dog-whistling. Pointing at the brown person or the person with the turbin and saying 'it's that person's fault everything is so sh*te'.

"Immigrants taking advantage of the system."

Taking advantage of the system that gives asylum seekers 40 quid a week and doesn't allow them to work? How does that work exactly?

"Our cities have become far less safe, now that's not just to do with immigration…"

One thing he said correctly. So why bother conflating the two issues then?

Another thing, Garron didn't say it but it's worth pointing out that we regularly see the nonsense online that serious crime is exploding. We never see anything like this before etc etc. These immigrants are going to rape and murder all of our women.

We took in more asylum seekers than we ever have last year, and homicides and sexual offences were down.

Other people like that lying prick Ben Scallan say that "we never saw stabbings when we were children" etc, Limerick was literally called Stab City until the late 00s.

The idea that all of our problems centre on immigration is completely false. Are there issues? Of course there are. Processing times for asylum seekers and the idea of just dumping them in communities to fend for themselves are completely unsustainable.

However, the usual dogwhistles of bringing down the quality of life and linking them to crime is not it. That's what he touched on. He is misinformed. People pointed that out to him. He couldn't take the heat so he f*cked off.

I hope the chap is alright because I don't think he meant any offence in what he said, however it doesn't take away from the fact that he said what he said and people are entitled to respond to him in disagreement.

Garron Noone has a platform and a big following! He has every right to voice his opinion on topics of the day if he wishes to do so. Nobody is forcing you to watch him.

I also think you miss quoted him or took words out of context in your reply to @nullzero above.

The IrishExaminer reporting on it now!

• It comes as Mr Noone said he had been "inundated" with messages from his followers, asking him about Conor McGregor's visit to the White House.

So your incorrect in saying: - "Nobody asked for his opinion, but he chose to give it anyway."!

"He has every right to voice his opinion on topics of the day if he wishes to do so."

Ok? Did you read my post? I literally said 'that's fine'.

However, people also have every right to disagree with him. Do they not?

If you looked at my post above where I quote from the clip, then that implies I've watched it, doesn't it?

I'll ask you again, are people not allowed to disagree with him?

I think you misunderstood my question.

I wasn't asking for your opinion or your perception of the immigration issue, I was asking where the verifiable facts that I assumed would be readily apparent in relation to Garron being "misinformed" lay, you know, the hard evidence to back up your assertion.

I have no appetite to end up down in the weeds with you arguing points that have been hashed out ad nauseum on this and other threads already.

To simplify things as much as possible my perception and that of a number of other people would be that Garron gave a very middle of the road response to the question of the immigration issue and said nothing that could be perceived by any rational person as controversial. The response he has received demonstrates the vociferous nature of a certain section within Irish society and just how unreasonable they can be to even the most inoffensive of comments made on this topic. In my opinion this was to discourage others from following suit and voicing their own concerns, it speaks to a nasty vitriolic strain of activism that is rearing it's head again and again in Ireland.

Except his response was littered with misinformation. You asked me to point it out. And I showed you in quotations where he was misinformed.

Apparently I misunderstood that.

A collossal waste of time replying to you, like I feared it would be, because now you're gaslighting me into thinking that's not what you said at all.

If you want a serious discussion about immigration I am happy to have that with you. However it is clear from your ignorance of my reply to you that you don't actually care.

A man on the internet gave his opinion on a divisive topic. Many people disagreed with him. Are they not allowed to disagree with him?

Opinions work both ways. He closed down his social media accounts because he chose to. Nobody is cancelling him. This idea that people are cancelled for their opinions is outright lies.

If he wasn't cancelled, bullied off line, then what would you call what happened him?

To me, he was bullied off line

I hope he is OK

I don't think he was bullied. He was very naive putting out his views online. We know it's a cesspit in that world. I actually don't think what he said was overly racist but I can see why he got the backlash. Obviously he took yhe backlash personally but really has himself to blame.

So what did I say which wasn't factually correct?

Are you going to actually tell me or are you going to keep gaslighting me that I didn't respond to what you asked?

Also, as far as I can see, a large number of people disagreed with his opinion.

Are you also saying that people can't disagree with anyone?

When the left show you who they are you better believe them. They're crazy and they control government and opposition in Dáil Éireann. They'll use every institution in the state against those who oppose them and their woke/pro immigrant views.

Nothing wrong with immigration for those who come to this country and work for a living. Plenty wrong when the left invite in the world, don't carry out background checks on them, give them free housing and free a life, turn a blind eye to their crimes (including murder), whilst turning on those who ask them to take responsibility for their actions.

Funny you point that out while ignoring what I said at the start of that paragraph:

"Another thing, Garron didn't say it but it's worth pointing out…"

And then you bow out after you've spread your lies.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but some of the vile comments and responses he got were OTT, you don't see that as bullying?