Manchester United Thread 2024/25 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Hojlund off bench to score for denmark . All good for the confidence

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When Ronaldo was in his prime Hojland was around 9 or 10 years old. Hojland probably worshipped him and saw him as an idol, in much the same way other little kids did.

Nothing embarrassing about it imo.

Well done Rasmus…….. I'm pleased for the lad.

He's directly said he loves Ronaldo, his idol. Got into football and United because of Ronaldo, according to him. So I'd reckon it's not ment to be mockery from him (agreeing with you, not thinking I'm contradicting you!)

Did anyone get embarrassed when Garnacho did it?

Not on that occasion, because he was playing with him.

I had the same reaction - if they were/are serious about starting before the end of the year being an ambition, how do they not know if there will be a big screen, or where the players tunnel would be, for example.

Can you apply for planning permission based on the outside of the ground (ie. we want to build a stadium here…) or do you need fully finished drawings? I know there will always being changes during construction but these seem like some fundemental questions.

On the concert piece - you can 'just' put a covering over the pitch - which is what they do in a lot of similar situations. And their video showed concert events in the stadium so its clearly part of the consideration.

I assume the football first nature of that is the mechanisms for retracting the pitch could require additional space between the pitch and the stands - and they seem focused o having the stands as close as possible to the pitch. But the new Madrid build doesn't seem lke there is much distance and theirs retracts - though theirs retracts under the pitch in a lift scenario - severl levels below the pitch into maintenance areas (kinda mind blowing!)

I know they said the current stuff we have seen is more concept and goal, and I have seen people say the detail will be done over the next 6 months or so which will define EXACTLY what the plan is - where the Munich clock would go etc etc - but as you say, it feels like there are way more decisions still to be made than I would have thought given how they have presented it.

With the apparent need for government assistance on the infrastucture I wonder if they have ineed rushed this initial view out so that the regeneration funding requirements are in the disucssion for the budgets that will be announced in the next few months - where as if they waited longer on the stadium piece the budget plans for this year would be nailed down and possibly there is greater difficulty down the line if money is allocated this year to other things.

The other side is if they need investment partners to fund it, this was possibly a sales pitch to them more than anything else (especially from a property development point of view). So now they can go to various banks, funds, global brands and offer up investment opportuniities based on an announced plan rather than something they need to keep under wraps.

Like I didn't expect to get full plans now - I knew they would still be work to be done on the implementation plans - but they don't seem to be in a situation to even start those, which is suprising based on their 'stsart by the end of the year' comment they put out there.

But then I have zero idea how all this actually works - maybe 6/7 months is more than enough time to make those decisions and have a whole team of architects building out the plans.

Also, if they hadn't given a starting time line of this year (as a hope) I'd probably not bat an eye lid at this - because I expected the first announcement to be either (1) we have decided to build a new stadium or (2) we have decided to refurb OT, and here is the concept and vision we are working towards. That makes sense to me, and is essentially what we go.

I didn't expect 'We are building a new stadium and here are the now completed designs'. IMO it makes sense that the type of thing we saw formed part of the Build vs Redevelop discussion and what could be achieved with either approach. Its just the time line they spoke of makes things seem more speculative than it should

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I don't think we were doubting the quality of, or the buy in from, the architects… think we were taken back by just how much of it seems to be in the concept stage, and given the aggressive timeline, that was surprising for me. When I heard about consultation processes I automatically think of fairly drawn out processes

If 2 years for planning - how is it reasonable that we start this year, or complete by 2030/31? If we are two years off breaking ground feels like a long long time til anything is finished.

There's a power of work to be done on infrastructure before anything starts on the stadium. Container base moved, train lines moved, stations built, demolition, new/upgraded roads etc. I'd say the stadium model and surrounding area is more to get all this underway. It'll be 1-2 years to do all the preliminary stuff, plenty of time to be working on detailed design

Unbelievable mileage.

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