Manchester United Thread 2024/25 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

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You keep bringing up corners. How many times has Hojlund been the primary target of these corners he's had little effect on? I'd assume very few because Maguire, MDL and Casemiro are our primary targets from corners.

It's been pointed out to you that waht you see on TV isn't the whole picture. Hojlund does so much more than what is shown on TV. The same way Rashfords strolling around the pitch had to be seen to be believed for some people. Rasmus has all of the tools to be Amorims #9. His finishing is exceptional when he gets a chance, this is born out in his stats. His critics will say it was bad defending but he can onlh beat what's in front of him, it was a well taken goal. He makes that run 4 or 5 times every game and rarely gets given the ball. He was given the ball against Leicester and look what happened.

I'd still like to see us sign a senior CF this summer to ease the burden on him but I'm fully bought in that Rasmus will be a success at Utd. IMO it's incredibly foolish to write him off based on this season.

I think the analysis of Hojlund was fairly balanced and understanding for what was an extremely long time to go without scoring. Most recognise his potential, the issues with the team, and the fact that he shouldn't be the only out and out striker in our squad.

Some people have went in heavy on him but I would say that you're probably going in too positive on him above. Most PL strikers have exceptional movement off the ball.

If we take Kane as a benchmark, and following some sleuthing on Wikioedia…. when he was Hojlunds age, he was just having his first top season for Spurs. The year previous he only played 10 games. RH has time. I would be looking at a reliable experienced no.9 not necessarily to start every game, not a big star for big money.

If RH is going to be the one, it's going to click for him in the not too distant future…..or not…

David on a free if top strikers like Osimhen, Gyokeres, Isaak are not gettable for us, would be a smart signing allowing us to put limited funds into 10, CM, CB, GK for example.

Even if he doesn't work out, you can probably sell easily enough in future seasons which comes out as a profit. Just make sure his wages are 'normal' by possibly giving a bigger signing on fee.

I suppose we have to be aware that two people can look at the same thing and come away with different conclusions on it tbf. You don't ever see him in the right positions, I can't do much about that other than to say I would disagree - I wouldn't say he is always in the right position, but certainly gets himself into good positions regularly.

Okay, to concentrate on the facts as you suggest and to use your example of corners united have had.

1. How many corners do you think United have had where you could reasonably expect him to score or create a goalscoring opportunity for a teammate (which is I assume what you would mean by having an influence on).

2. How much of United's potency at corners is solely down to the number 9, independent of other players contributions.

3. For both of the above, can you reference the number 9s you are comparing Højlund too in terms of standards for having an influence on the outcome of their teams corners for context.

But there have also been multiple defensive corners where he's been out muscled or failed to get there.

All the talk about his off the ball movement in recent posts, it's easier to look like you are making runs when that's all you've to do in attack. His teammates obviously don't think they're all that great if they're not picking him out.

His runs are good at opening up space sometimes but if you can't get on the ball and make something happen yourself then you're going to be limited in how much you can affect the game. He's improved the last couple of games but is still looking to dump the ball off whenever he gets it instead of holding it. A lone striker needs to be able to hold it up or else what's the point? It's just going back where it came from.

What are haalands touch numbers? What were they when city were struggling?

United have been poor, service for forward players has been poor.

Hojlund has also been poor. All these things g can be true at the same time.

One goal is a start and it was the kind of chance he needed (he's always been a good finisher with time and space). He was allowed enough time and space for multiple touches and to get himself set for a good strike. You don't usually get this in the PL and that's where he's been struggling to get enough space to get a shot off.

Now the confidence from breaking his duck will hopefully help him to get shots off more quickly, but he'll need to, the team are improving and hopefully he will too.

24 min vid for anyone interested.

Had to google Anfield Agenda... Didn't realize you were talking about Fester

I thought this was a good watch/listen - but if they are still to work out how many tiers a stand will be, or if there will be a screen, or where the tunnel will be… I strongly suspect that the clubs stated hope of starting by the end of this year is wildly ambitious/plain lies.

Surely there is no way you go from still needing to sort those questions/answers to starting building via planning permission, land purchases etc in 9 months.

I'd say he's worse.

With Goldbridge there is a comedy element. I can't tell how much is intentional or not but it's certainly there.

It wouldn't be for me to watch all the time but I can see why people can be entertained by him

The Anfield agenda I genuinely can't see anything entertaining about him. He doesn't offer any unique inside. He's not well versed on the game. He's not someone who can tell you something about Liverpool the local drunk lad down the pub couldn't.

He's a big cry baby from what I've seen. Maybe that's were he gets views.

Going up against an anonymous internet page that makes borderline jokes not a smart move really.

Is Goldbridge not just like the Tommy Robinson of football?

Yes, anytime I have seen content from anfield agenda he does come across as a self righteous tool.