Hamas strike on Israel

You Post like as if none of us have seen the videos of IDF soldiers using citizens as shields.

The IDF targeted Hezbollah leadership very effectively by managing to get bombs in to the possession of several of them. Bombs which they could then activate at a moment of their choosing. Which they did.

Nethanyahu, by his own admission emboldened Hamas because he knew he could use them to justify his genocide.

It's criminal that he has been supported so much by western powers and practically applauded by posters like yourself pushing this false narrative.

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The anger is growing within Israel for the resumption of hostilities and the failure to release the hostages, which Hamas had agreed to.

• Israel's security cabinet postponed a discussion about the hostages in Gaza and in its place will convene on Thursday evening to vote on the dismissal of Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar. The Hostages and Missing Families Forum said the families were "furious" and had been asking for an urgent meeting with PM Netanyahu and the security cabinet for a week, but "have yet to receive a response."
• Thousands protested near the private residence of PM Netanyahu in Jerusalem against the dismissal of Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar and to demand an immediate hostage release deal. The police launched water cannon at them at point-blank range. A police officer was filmed pushing Democrats party leader Yair Golan, knocking him to the ground.

"In the current round, it is difficult to find even a shred of justification for the decision to renew the war.

From any perspective, this is a war of choice. This is not a war for survival. It is a political war, made possible by the blind support of U.S. President Donald Trump for Israel and Netanyahu.

Once again, Netanyahu's demagogic and false justification for launching the war is that Hamas refused to release the hostages and, thus, to inflict on it a final blow" – Yossi Melman

Indeed - I think the difficult thing to understand is the outrage of Israelis and their supporters regarding the murder of children on Oct 7th yet it's tumbleweed for the many tens of thousands of kids murdered in Gaza from 8th October onwards.

And over 700 of them didn't even reach their first birthday.

Israel killed a four month old just yesterday. Sickening. Four months old - born during war and lived for just 120 days.

But we still see the justification for this even here.

I don't think I've ever seen a post taken this much out of context.

To quote what I posted:

I think the difficult thing to understand is the outrage of Israelis and their supporters regarding the murder of children on Oct 7th yet it's tumbleweed for the many tens of thousands of kids murdered in Gaza from 8th October onwards.

Edit: on reflection, it's actually not even taken out of context - it is a complete misquote of what I posted.

It was worse than that - Zaka embellished the truth (that's being kind) to tug in the heart strings of Israelis to donate money to them.

So Zaka used examples of atrocities that were utterly debunked, to make cold hard cash. Out of their dead Israeli compatriots. Nearly 14 million dollars

Absolutely disgusting.

ZAKA faced insolvency before 7 October 2023. Given the job of retrieving the dead bodies after the 7 October 2023, they started fund-raising on 8 October 2023. By 31 January 2024, they had raised over $13.7 million.

According to Haaretz, ZAKA's conduct in the aftermath of the attacks was unprofessional, including mixing up remains and spreading misinformation about atrocities that never happened in order to raise money.

How many times has Hamas killed civilians in the last 20 years?

How many times has Israel?

18 months ago, I wrote on here that I saw Hamas as terrorists and I advocated ways that Israel could seek to target their leadership and the capability of the organisation. I posted several times to that effect.

That was 18 months ago. Now, I am not a supporter of Hamas, but I absolutely understand why they exist. And the continuous proclamations as to their evil nature carries less and less weight when they are coming from people and organisations who are doing far worse (to individuals, within the conflict, and in the region) than that organisation is doing.

Hamas arose out of Israel's actions and has persevered in no small part because they play the convenient role of the bogeyman for all of Israel's supporters and chief advocates of their genocidal behaviour.

We watch various idiots on western media every day talk about the sanctity of their own land and we have to listen to their proclamations about how they will use force to defend themselves and their property if they perceive that they are being attacked directly (Trump this week is advocating invading Mexico on the premise that its drug cartels are harmful to America). The US has killed Yemeni people this week purely because its commercial interests were being bothered in the gulf region.

So, can you tell us why Israel, the US and others can advocate for and use violence to defend their interests but the Palestinians can have no one do this on their behalf in the face of a real and intended genocide.

P.S. And I wasn't arguing in bad faith, you just didn't like what I was saying. You should think on why that is the case.