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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Field east


    Does the constitution not usurp the Supreme Court? . The Supreme Court only tries to interpret it. Another Supreme Court could interpret it differently - ESPECIALLY if it operates without ‘ fear or favour’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Field east


    Imagine the kind of S###t that Trump/ his team bring up when discussing serious matters- especially at this point in time re wars, etc. EG Trump and Putin discussing anout both countries playing an ice hockey match ; commenting on VZ rigout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,613 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    They're unlikely to overturn their own ruling after only a few years, and especially considering their ruling was made under a Biden administration.

    And chances are, some of the current justices might decide a timely retirement just before Trump's term ends and allow Trump/GOP to ensure the SC is still stacked on the conservative side for years to come.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,894 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    There is an interesting parallel here to the 1930s, in arguably the most defining power struggle between President and Court that the US has ever had. It completely changed the structure, operation and character of the country, more so, I would say, than the Civil War (which, to a sidetrack to a different discussion, was the last time that the military oaths were significantly changed: From the allegiance to the states and instead to the Constitution).

    After repeatedly losing at SCOTUS under the Hughes court, Roosevelt basically told them "Give me the ruling I want, or I'll pack the court and get the ruling I want." SCOTUS provided West Coast Hotel, and suddenly the Federal Government became a significant controlling point for domestic policy, not only a source of inter-state co-ordination and foreign policy.

    There are two items I think worth observing here.

    1. Despite the fact that the President basically bullied the court into getting what he wanted, it's not really a particularly remarked-upon event when discussing the current environment. There is precedent to current fears, and it was done by one of the more well-regarded Democrats in modern history. Further, the country has been doing OK for the ninety years since. I think threatening the court was wrong then, and it would be wrong now, but I'm not sure I'm in a majority opinion in holding such a consistency.
    2. The court in 1935 caved early. Popular though FDR was, his actions against the court were not. It turned out that there was great opposition to his court-packing plan and it probably would not have passed. I'm not convinced, relatively spineless though both some Republican and Democrat politicians have proven of late, that Trump would actually have the votes to dismantle the court.

    (Besides, if, as people are advocating, Trump is immune to court actions because nobody will enforce the court orders against him, why would he need to dismantle the court?)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,388 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Trump has mentioned his call with Putin lasted “nearly two hours” - they spoke about Ukraine “and other things”

    I can’t help but think Ukraine didn’t get much agenda time as I’d say the “other things” are much more pressing for Trump - he’s obviously cooking up something



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    You would hope so and the supreme court left it a bit ambitious when they ruled. I say if there was some challenge we will find they will become a lot more detailed. Maybe Trump will utter the infamous words by Jackson after they ruled on native Americans been ruled "they have issued the rulling now let them enforce it"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭Canaibh


    Mod: Warned for commenting on moderation on thread

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭Canaibh


    Have you looked into that judge's background? I have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    If Clarence Thomas had any sense he'd step down before the mid-terms. Alito too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Is he in the "New Order of Barabrians", too? Huge if true.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    So now Trump admin began seizing money from universities bank accounts

    Let’s see the 42D chess mental gymnastics trumpists will perform now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Please expand on what your actual point is in relation to his background? Cause at the moment it's coming across as vague nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,613 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah that's true, they might go before the mid-terms in case Dems retake the Senate and block their nominated replacements.

    Then again, they could probably bank on the Dems doing absolutely nothing regardless, and they'd probably be right.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod: Canaibh can't come to the forum so please don't quote their posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Sorry mods



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Economics101


    So it seems that Unilever are pressuring Ban and Jerry's (which it owns) to cease "political activism", and Ben and Jerry's have now sued. I wonder what pressure the Orange One put on Unilever?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg8pk9rpx4o

    The MAGA cancer is metastasizing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,058 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I wonder where some people on here are getting their "information" on judges who rule against Trump...

    Screenshot_20250319-182130.png

    Blatant lies being uttered without a single thought.

    Don't know how she sleeps at night

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,388 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    If this was France there would be riots in the streets at this stage , especially given the destruction of government jobs



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭randd1


    The French have a healthy distrust of authority that makes them question their leaders and demand action if the people are not being heard.

    Americans on the other hand have been told all their lives that America is the only place in the world and they’re the best at everything. Throw in a population where religion plays such a pivotal role and it’s little wonder they need to someone to lose it over them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,879 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Within the limitations of the SCOTUS words "Official Presidential Duties".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,879 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'm thinking that the average US citizen will soon have to wake up to the fact that US foreign policy is being decided and directed by the Russian President and not their president. It is obvious that Trump is ceding ground on all fronts to Putin, including the freedoms of the US for a pittance of uncertified "promises" over the phone from Putin.

    The European powers have woken to that very recently, hopefully at not a too late stage for its future as part of what's left of the free world. The word of the present US president carries just as much weight as dishwater, unlike even the word of RM Nixon, who resigned from office for the good of his country and a pardon from Ford.

    A couple of years back I would have travelled to the US as a tourist to see the sights of a great world power but not now with the way it is visibly disintegrating around the ears of the US citizens under Trumps handling from a country with willing allies to one where the allies are being thrown under the Russian bus by Trump. An urgent question the citizens of the US will have to face is how long will it be before their country will fit the description Trump used to describe some parts of Africa, one where it will be alone in the world without a friend to stand by it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Probably but Russians bought a lot of property from Trump Inc,. after his visits on Miss World lark, ownership hidden via offshore companies, top dollar always paid, Trump Inc owes survival to these purchases, Putin will know exactly who purchased what, as most down to money-laundering and Russians always looking over their shoulders, as they know where the wealth came from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,521 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    McGregor’s latest insta!!!😖🥴



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭eire4


    Its basically the Ministry of Truth from Orwell's 1984 at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Raichų


    doing a fine job ending the Ukraine and Gaza war so far anyway.
    also what exactly is likely to happen with those who’s pardons have been revoked?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    The absolute **** state of that.
    1. Who the **** does he think he is?

    2. There’s no way he wrote that himself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,058 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Posted with a picture of tramp. Can’t help but feel this is apartheid Elon pulling the strings on this and trying to influence Irish politics.

    As his sister would say “the bleeedin neck”

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