Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I've made it quite clear I am no fan of Beni.

However, you ignore the fact that Israel is a parlimentary democracy and he hasn't been returned as such. This is a coalition government, a very cobbled together coalition.

It goes without stating that a return to a more centerist government would be good for everyone.

There is also a very good chance he will be gone in the next election. He's only around 23% on the last election vote.

Can you say the same about Gaza? Would Hamas be voted out tomorrow if there was an election?

Bizarre, I never mentioned jewish people either! Why would you insert that?

Israel are the most evil government in human history

No. No lies. Although you are clearly someone who thinks whatever pops into their head is reality.

I was in Israel. I did discuss going to Gaza on my first trip. I naively though you could just stroll down to the border. I was told the reality, and that it was too dangerous anyway. However, difficult is not impossible,and i did consider persuing it for a while but decided against. Happy?

44% of the Palestinians did vote for Hamas in 2006!

The general go-to for peole like you is to claim this is a once off and that people didn't have a chance to vote since, which is of course true. However,

You ignore the fact that Hamas have been popular the entire duration of their rule.

You ignore that Abbas cancelled elections a few years back because he was afraid of losing the West Bank to Hamas too.

You ignore that Hamas surge in popularity in polls in the immediate aftermath of commiting atrocities.

You ignore that they are hugly popular right now.

You do provide a simlistic narrative about the emergence of Terrorist organisations. Copying and pasting from wikipedia doesn't enhace your arguement. You choose to post the Keegan Hitler quote. I choose to point out how imbecilic it was.

You called my assertion that Hamas be ****ing off soon as claptrap, but that will be the final result here. I called it right months ago. The arab nations will not hand over cash to rebuild with Hamas in power, simple as.

It's not though.

Gaza is a failed terrorist entity, and Palestine is the Pariah state, and has been for years. The other Arab nations are looking ot normalise relations with Israel and that process will continue after the war ends.

Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Kuwait have all had their bad experiences with Palestine/PLO and thus it remains the outcast.

Ursula Von der Leyen will be out shortly to announce another round of sanctions against Israel for its fresh slaughter of children and illegal occupation of land.

No. No lies. Although you are clearly someone who thinks whatever pops into their head is reality.

Well, this is 'crystal clear' ranting. Do you have your fingers in your ears as you shout 'No. No. Lies'. I've used your own words against you and, I understand, it's inconvenient for you. But not 'lies' unfortunately.

I was in Israel. I did discuss going to Gaza on my first trip. I naively though you could just stroll down to the border. I was told the reality, and that it was too dangerous anyway. However, difficult is not impossible,and i did consider persuing it for a while but decided against. Happy?

Yeah….sure.

44% of the Palestinians did vote for Hamas in 2006!

Yes. In 2006. I never disagreed with the percentage. What I did show you, which you ignored conveniently, is that of todays Gazan population approx 70% weren't born of of voting age. You again parade this as if they voted recently.

The general go-to for peole like you is to claim this is a once off and that people didn't have a chance to vote since, which is of course true. However,

As per your own works (again) that vote was in 2006; there hasn't been one since so……They. Have not. Had. A. Chance. To. Vote. Since.

You ignore the fact that Hamas have been popular the entire duration of their rule.

I haven't. You made this bit up. Again.

You ignore that Abbas cancelled elections a few years back because he was afraid of losing the West Bank to Hamas too.

I haven't. You made this bit up. Again.

You ignore that Hamas surge in popularity in polls in the immediate aftermath of commiting atrocities.

I haven't. You made this bit up. Again.

You ignore that they are hugly popular right now.

I haven't. You made this bit up. Again.

You do provide a simlistic narrative

The ignorant irony.

.about the emergence of Terrorist organisations. Copying and pasting from wikipedia doesn't enhace your arguement. You choose to post the Keegan Hitler quote.

Well then tell the group how the emergence of terrorist groups differ in your opinion. Or is that too simplistic to do?

You choose to post the Keegan Hitler quote.

Again, you fail to understand the quote; you simply saw 'Hitler' and latched on to it incorrectly. It's specifically reflects on terrorism and it's origins. Or was it 'Too simplistic'

I choose to point out how imbecilic it was.

You haven't pointed out anything; you just ignored the facts and skirt around them. In normal discourse, you cant just call it 'imbecilic' because you don't like it.

You called my assertion that Hamas be ****ing off soon as claptrap, but that will be the final result here.

The "Final Result"….I doubt you have the morality, depth or cognisance to recognise what else that phrase sounds extremely familiar to.

You should be ashamed, but as you have no issue putting it down for everyone to see, similar to your "favourite quote", its clear this is completely lost on you.

The issue with your "Final Result" is that the IDF are not differentiating innocent Palestinians from Hamas. But this is obvious and you just don't care.

But tell us again how Israel isn't an oppressive party.

I called it right months ago. The arab nations will not hand over cash to rebuild with Hamas in power, simple as.

That's not the current issue we are all discussing and reacting to with general disgust. You, as usual, are happy to ignore that bit.

It clearly isn't. The poster has explained it clearly for you.

But you're scrambling now so you need to start throwing out labels.

Let's just summarise @sheepysheep's position in two quotes:

"Israel are not oppressing millions of people"

But as Israel break a cease fire and bomb civilians…

"..that will be the final result here."

Depraved and shameful and then has the audacity to wax lyrical about others "Wolf whistle"

They have voting rights if they are Israeli citizens, 

In east Jerusalem they can vote; but have no political representation….so let's not portray it as fair as you'd like to misrepresent it as.

I'm unaware of that trope, I said the Israeli regime resembled demons because they lack basic human empathy and appear to have an insatiable bloodlust towards the innocent including children.

There was no need to write anything more since it was a quote reply to a post on "Israeli fuckers" related to the genocide. Hope that helps and I await your apology though I suspect you're not here posting in good faith.

They can only vote in local elections and are barred from running for the post of mayor.

I stand with Hamas

Is he from the West Bank, Golan or Arab East Jerusalem?

Well! As long as you're only replying to people posting 'Israeli ****ers', I guess all's right with the world. Go back and substitute in 'Irish' or 'Black' and see how comfortable you are making that reply.