Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

We have a Russia thread where the Russians are referred to as "orcs"....what words can be used on these evil Israeli fùckers....

They are disgusting vile cowards.....

Its exactly what they're doing. AND it's only starting.

Nonsense?

Well, the ICJ found the case for Genocide against Israel "plausible".

And there are two senior Israelis with arrest warrants out for the for War Crimes.

So no, not nonsense. And not a stupid post either.

Demonic comes to mind. They lack basic human empathy as they slaughter tens of thousands of children and innocents and conspire to starve millions more. They don't even feel regret or sorrow at it, they revel in joy at the bloodbath and thirst for more.

Don't be stupid and get baited into using slurs. They want that

It's bizarre and disgusting that anyone with any humanity could attack those families who just want their loved ones home (dead or alive).

It certainly appears that there is a lot of hypocrisy within Israel and wholesale swallowing of the Hasbara.

I see many Nations are expressing outrage, disgust and abhorrence at events in Gaza in the last 24 hours.

Israel is a failed terrorist state and a Pariah on the world stage. Justice will be served.

The people joining the IDF do get a free pass, yes. Why? Because it's a legitmate career choice like joining the Guards or Irish Armed forces. Maybe you look down on those people in our security forces, I don't.

People who join the IRA/Hamas don't get a free pass because they have joined a terrorist organisation with the intention of killing people to further their aims. They join to go to war and kill.

The IRA/Hamas are scum. There is no justification for joining such organisations.

I knew plenty of lads in the Army or Navy, never knew anyone in a terrorist organisation.

That's easy to say sitting in a (now) peaceful, civil and modern country like Ireland.

It was an easy thing for over 95% of the Irish population to say between 69 and 94, and up to the present day, whether you like it or not. You're obviously not one of them.

You were asking about voting rights, and whether Palestinians were 'represented' or something.

The poster gave you an an informative reply about East Jer, and maybe WB. I can't remember.

The point is it was just ignored.

No one said they were above reproach.

The ICJ adjudicates on disputes between States. Israel is a State and has been brought before the ICJ by South Africa (enjoined by others since) accused of Genocide. The ICJ found the case plausible and issued preliminary measures against Israel twice - which Israel ignored, twice, and continued to do so.

Regardless of any posts here, plenty of reputable organisations have concluded Israel is committing Genocide.

That you don't like those facts is irrelevent.

My point holds oceans of water. You just don't like it.

The IDF have fought and defeated two murderous terrorist organisations while suffering only minimal damages to their own people.

Hamas on the other hand will allow the death of every Palestinian in Gaza to persue their demented ideology.

The people joining the IDF do get a free pass, yes. Why? Because it's a legitmate career choice like joining the Guards or Irish Armed forces.

"Getting a pass" is not in relation them joining the IDF. It's in relation to their inhumane acts that are well documented. I note below you seem to conveniently swap this logic when it suits; given the last three years, why else do Israelis join the IDF but to go to war and kill….

You know this but are now masquerading it as something else.

Maybe you look down on those people in our security forces, I don't.

I never said this. Never hinted at it. You're making things up (again) to try and weasel out of it. l.

The IRA/Hamas are scum. There is no justification for joining such organisations.

Again you have difficulties differentiating the facts and history of their origins from any justification for their actions.

It was an easy thing for over 95% of the Irish population to say between 69 and 94, and up to the present day, whether you like it or not.

The Irish population as a whole did not experience the Troubles in equal measure; locally, especially after Operation Demetrius/Bloody Sunday etc., the IRA percentage was not a mere 5% (using your 'assessment')

Actually in parts of Ireland during the troubles it was an issue for some to be incorrectly labelled a terrorist by state organisations and find yourself detained without reason; this type of state oppression drove numbers to the IRA…just like we are witnessing and have witnessed before.

You're obviously not one of them.

No I am not a terrorist. Thanks for the clarification, bizarre as it is.

I understand anger - from each and every side. But hate is a terrible thing. I would absolutely support any and all Israelis who see that the current campaign will solve nothing - either for the Palestinians or the Israelis, and wish it to end (many do).

When I use the word "Israel" it is in the context of the Government and, to a lesser extent, the IDF (who are following orders - mostly). It is not intended as tarring all Israelis with same brush.

It was discussed many months ago - Israel holds itself up as "the only democratic nation in the ME with the most moral army in the world". As such, they have a lot to live up to - and are failing miserably. Hence the strong criticism - and providing evidence to show Israel and the IDF ate no better than Hamas.

In his own words "Israel are not oppressing millions of people. "

I was referring to the Netanyahu Israeli regime and it's supporters, neither I or the post I quoted mentioned Jewish people and I'd thank you to not make up complete inflammatory nonsense to deflect from the point being made.

There are many good and moral Jewish people around the world who don't support the horrors Netanyahu is inflicting and I'm sure don't care for the equation you're trying to make.