Is Elon Musk hurting Tesla? (Mod Note Post #1)

Teslarati is the Fox News or Breitbart of electric vehicle news, they're Pro-Tesla.

Anyway, that poll is hilariously easy to manipulate. Somebody with only entry level coding experience + ChatGPT can create a simple application to spam the answer they want to win. So it doesn't surprise me why it swung from a majority voting no initially, to favouring the Yes vote since the news broke to an international audience.

Let the sales figures in Germany be the true 'poll'. At present, Germans are rejecting Tesla, sales have plummeted.
With the release of Juniper, sales may return to normal. I doubt it, but we'll soon see.

So when a poll confirms your bias it's gospel, when the same poll upends that earlier bias it's been manipulated. You go one further and suggest it was manipulated by AI not people. That's quite something.

The source of the news is irrelavant as the poll is still active, the source does not alter the poll results. Attaching it to right wing sources is silly as the facts are still the facts, the poll is now positive for Tesla.

Why do think Tesla dealerships were being targeted before he did the Sieg Heil?

Same reason any car dealership gets targeted. Random acts of violence

Let me clarify my stance for you. That online poll can be easily manipulated by the anti or pro Tesla side, so it isn't gospel for me. My 'gospel', as I already mentioned, are the sales figures.

I'm not saying it could have been manipulated by 'AI', you're misunderstanding the point I'm trying to make.

For example, you can open a incognito tab in your browser, paste that website poll URL, vote in the poll, close the tab, open a new incognito tab and vote again ad infinitum. Therefore, it is very easy to code a simple app to automate that process.
You can do all of that without 'AI'(ChatGPT), all it takes is some extra googling and more time.
If you were a complete novice, you could do it with lots of help from ChatGPT. It's not extremely complex.

Continuous months of declined sales will be very much a sign of things to come. The hugely negative pr around Tesla is unlikely to make somebody more likely to buy one and Musk being in Trumps ear during a trade war with Europe is not gonna help the brand.

I agree, there's no doubt a proportion of those acts were random, but it's not unreasonabe to say a proportion could be politically motivated due to Musk's disgusting behaviour given his global reach and influence.

With lower sales figures incoming I also wouldn't rule out an insurance job

Regardless my local ford dealer got broken into and cars vandalised a few months ago and it didn't make the front page news. All a lot of sh1te news that the EV community don't need at the moment

This is getting a bit out of hand, listing owners locations so you can go unlease your artistic flair on their cars, seems to be limited to the US at the moment.

https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/business/tesla-doxing-website-shows-owners-personal-details-has-molotov-cocktail-as-cursor/

I wonder how they got the names and addresses, bit ironic calling Musk a Nazi while hunting down Tesla owners.

Tesla managed to alieniate the very people who actually buy their cars.

The liberal left who care about the environment etc.

The right wing think climate change is a hoax and hate electric cars.

Wow. How can you mess up something so big and simple as Tesla in a few months.

Unbelievable.

Musk shared information of a judges daughter, on twitter. A judge that ordered the federal government to unfreeze billions in grants to various departments that DOGE cut. She is now likely to face intimidation and threats.

Will you condemn his actions?

He is a disgusting, psychopathic individual who is not fit to run a company like Tesla. He is unstable.

It's fairly believable I'd say. The money went to his head, the Biden administration snubbed him, twitter etc. In hindsight his actions were actually quite foreseeable for the last number of years

Tesla is 1 of the 5 companies he is CEO of and he owns just 13% of the shares. His involvement with Tesla would be best described largely as minimal but the key thing is it's the only product in his empire that the public have direct access to. This makes it both an easy target and RTE will be happy

If he stays on as CEO past the next investor meeting, that would be unbelievable.

Because if the current crash in sales and share price continues investors will feel that he has sopped delivering for them. Once that happens they can either fire him or continue to lose money. If you were an investor, what would your preference between the two be?