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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭yagan


    Even McGregor identified himself as British at one stage I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Sinn Fein are populist left. The definition of populism is "person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite group". That 100% describes SF.

    SInn Fein are also dominated by religious beliefs so could turn from left to right wing populism on a dime depending on how tide turns, its been that way throughout Eastern Europe where once left wing groups have gone to right.

    If Casey gets on ballot here it's not out of the question McGregor won't.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Whatever is listed in law in his state or federal regulation, just like everyone else. Let me know if he tries to buy a firearm, for example. Or do you suggest different laws and punishments should apply to him than anyone else similarly situated?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭golfball37


    His highest in office approval ratings currently . Just under 50%.
    None of our business really if the people who voted for him don’t have buyers remorse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭randd1


    I think as well with America it's all about the show. Trump is a simplistic showman, McGregor is a simplistic showman. And they really love celebrities.

    Trump and McGregor might be an unmitigated disaster as human beings and even worse for the welfare of a country, but they're entertaining enough to distract dumb people and convince dumb people that they're like them, which helps them sell themselves as showmen, which they are, you can't take your eyes off them, they're entertainment.

    Throw in the weird way Americans worship celebrities, and the tendency of Americans to be deferential to celebrities/showmen (especially the celebrity preachers).

    It's a weird setup, for a country built around the concept of individual freedom and the pursuit of better, how utterly subservient the majority of them are as a group that they surrender themselves and their self worth to a celebrity showman. Sad too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,774 ✭✭✭plodder


    Obviously I don't know whether anyone did and I'm certainly not taking Trump's word for it. But, I think it is crazy to be using this robotic autopen to sign any important documents like legislation, as Obama did when he was out of the country. The idea of it, is completely crazy imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    literally few posts up you have Trump admin openly boasting about ignoring the law and judges

    And if imprisoned Trump will just pardon them making mockery of your belief in checks and balances and the rule of law



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The same polling has the majority of the public disapproving of his handling of the economy. You can say it's none of our business. But given his rhetoric in relation to Ukraine, Palestine, Greenland and Canada then his international policy is everyone's business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,603 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Plenty do, especially as their Social Security & Medicaid gets closer and closer to the cliff-edge. Not to mention federal workers and families of who have been losing their jobs. And from April 2nd when more tariffs are due to hit, we'll probably start seeing a lot more.

    He's far more likely to have lost voters, than to have gained the support of any who hadn't voted for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Casey was somewhat of a respectable businessman before the campaign that time

    The absolute opposite to McGregor. He has ZERO chance of getting a nomination from any local authority or council.

    Name even 5 people in Leinster House out of the 20 he would need that will put him forward



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Yes and look at the results of this poll

    A big change since November when Biden was in charge.

    First time since 2012 it has exceeded 40% and 44% is the highest figure it has reached in 21 years.

    Alot of people are happy with what Trump is doing.

    On the flip side, in another NBC poll the Democratic Party has reached an all-time low in popularity.

    Just over a quarter of registered voters (27%) say they have positive views of the party, which is the party’s lowest positive rating in NBC News polling dating back to 1990. Just 7% say those views are “very” positive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    46% right now and I think the lowest of all presidents at this stage of their term bar trump I.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Conveniently ignoring how he's polling badly for handling the economy and inflation and the end results of that haven't hit yet. On top of that, the stock market is on its 4th week of crashing. You've weirdly avoided even mentioning that with your drop ins.

    Also on top of that, from the Irish perspective, he used St Patrick's Day to platform an Irish rapist. Given the fact he's supposedly all about protecting women, seems pretty much the antithesis of that. Instead we'll get vague efforts to paint anything as positive....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Just because McGregor is a scumbag doesn't mean what he says isn't true , same applies to Trump.

    It would be nice if perfectly sensible views about immigration were embraced by mainstream political parties so the only people representing these views in public aren't self serving scumbags like Trump and McGregor.

    Mod Edit: Warned for ignoring mod instruction



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Almost everything I do in the military is done with a digital signature. It doesn't even look like a signature, just a block with part of my name and a jumble of numbers. I had the option of wet signing my assumption of command, as it's something I might want to keep for display purposes, but there's no requirement to go through the hassle of wet signing something which is going to get scanned to be put into the record. Save the tree, just keep it digital.

    Most civilian contracts I enter into (getting a car loan, solar panels, etc) are done with digital signatures by online companies like Docusign, you don't even need to leave the house. I don't know if it's common in Ireland, but it's very common in the US.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    It's quiet common here, most lenders use docusign for instance.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Huh, I thought it was a Docusign type thing. Trust the Americans to be completely weird about things.

    Nonetheless, it doesn't hamper the main point. There is no significant difference between the Autopen and a digital signature - assuming the person in question intended to sign the document. There would need to be a paper trail for that. Under English law, from which Irish and American is derived, a "signature" is a pretty flexible concept.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The president of America giving a global to a rapist is absolutely crass and nasty, must be incredibly unpleasant for any survivors of sexual violence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,603 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I wonder if Trump personally signed each of the pardons for all the Jan 6'ers.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Same here. Now I'm looking the thing up, I can understand the argument.

    Apparently it's not a new discussion. The Office of Legal Counsel put out a nearly 30-page opinion on the matter back in 2005. (End result, the OLC believes it's valid, looking at precedent pre-dating even the formation of the US)

    https://www.justice.gov/file/494411/dl?inline



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭randd1


    The Democrats are sulking, and nobody likes a sulk.

    Trump is taking a sledgehammer to American business, American society and American politics, turned on it's allies, has completely mental fiscal policies, has handed over the running of te country to Elon Musk, has turned America into Russia's bitch on the international stage, and the best that the Democrats can offer is wearing pink shirts, shaking a cane and waving paddles.

    It's little wonder their support numbers have fallen, people won't vote for or follow jellyfish, and the Democrats have less of a spine than a jellyfish.

    As bad as we can be over here, if our leadership had acted they way Trump has done in the last few weeks, we'd be looking forward to another election, or at the very least a lot of heads would have rolled.

    The Democrats are so punch-drunk they can't even muster up anger at what's going on. Thousands of people losing their jobs, farmers being decimated, teachers, veterans, civil/public servants fired for now reason, trillions wiped off the stock market and bar one or two like AOC, not a peep. Any normal opposition would be raging and organizing massive protests and pushback.

    What's even worse, it's quite clear a lot of people who voted for Trump are raging at the minute over what's he's doing, his approval is down, there's some very real anger there towards Republicans to the point many of them have stopped doing town hall meetings, it would be the perfect time to push back hard against Trumpism.

    And yet, you could hear a mouse fart they've been so quiet. Trump and Musk to destroy America with mental deranged and fascist-like authoritarian policies that will rip it apart and turn it into an international pariah, and the Democrats to help that destruction via weakness and cowardice.

    America looks fcuked.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭Canaibh


    Like how Biden pardoned his son? Did he make a mockery of the rule of law when he did that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Remind the readers what January 6th mob tried to do

    And what crime Bidens son done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Part of me thinks that the Democrats strategy, if one can call it that, is giving the Republicans enough rope to hang themselves.

    There's really fu*k all they can actually do at the moment though about Trump's disastrous dismantling of the nation as they have no power. But maybe by the mid terms, things will be different.

    All the Democrats can do now is speak out against what Trump and his billionaire coup is doing and there are a number doing so. But the problem is nobody's listening.

    Maybe they'll start to prick up their ears when the impact of Trump's clowning around reaches them in a real way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I think the biggest thing for the Dems is that they need to come up with a clear strategy and start moving towards some clearer leadership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,400 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Checks and balances lay with Congress.

    He could be held in contempt or court, but as you say Trump would just pardon him. In a functioning democracy, you would then have Congress impeaching the cabinet member to remove them. The house possibly has the numbers to impeach but they would never get a conviction in the Senate.

    The checks and balances are there, they are just not being used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    True. But they're nowhere near that at the moment.

    It may feel like an age since he got back into the White House but, remember, we're not even two months into Trump's second term and the Democrats are still reeling from what the American voter has done to themselves. They haven't stopped saying WTF yet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    There is a LOT they can do, even if it doesn't actually stop anything.

    Sitting on their hands waiting for a moment is not it. Schumer et al bowing to the pressure of a government shutdown to allow the Republicans do whatever they want anyway is not it either.

    The Trump Administration is clearly flouting the law of the land and doing what they want. The Democrats should be shouting from the rooftops about this. Disrupt House and Senate proceedings. Make the loudest noise they possibly can even if they can't stop the Administration from doing it.

    Sitting around and just letting it happen makes them look like the spineless cowards that they are.



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