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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,725 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I am aware of the…real-ness or otherwise of comment sections. However it is social media comments that have largely produced this situation. Would the comments have been somehow real if they had been expressing anti-McGregor views?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    So that's a town the size of Portlaoise that needs to be housed.

    60% increase in the Irish population in the past 30 years is definitely having an impact on our housing situation.20% or more of our population being born overseas is certainly having an impact aswell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Not that I'm saying she fulfills any of those criteria, save one, but…how about Rosie O'Donnell? We can have an official welcome party for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Never occured to me how good an analogy for MAGA supporters Donovan's Mother was.

    For those who haven't watched V (or don't want to) Mike Donovan is the hero of the story, while his own mother is very much a supporter of the The Visitors' facist regime. In fact she's so much of a supporter that she publically backs them to the point of gleaning clout from her association with them. She's got what she wanted, and to hell with everyone else. That very much seems to be the MAGA way.

    But in addition to that, Donovan's mother fails to notice that her new friends fully intend to eventually kill her. So in the quest of gaining temporary cudos, she's insuring that she has no future….just like MAGA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    China banning US LNG exports

    That gives europe more leverage over same as US doesn’t have many places to export now



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    I awoke to the news that the Rapist Connor Mcgregor was invited to the White House... guess he was going to compare notes with the other Rapist Donald Trump.

    Not even hald a year into his 2nd term and we are already seeing crap like this. We live in the worst timeline.

    Clever word play may win debates, but it doesn't make it true.

    Understanding and explaining things, is not the same as justifying them, if in doubt… please re-read this statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,723 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I’m still mildly traumatised all these years later by your one casually eating the hamster

    Don't watch it again and keep your trauma. While much of 'V' remains good, that particular scene doesn't stand up at all unfortunately.

    Kid me was enthralled by the show, too, back in the 80's. It was actually a bit of an event around our way. The kids were all talking about it in school and it was must see TV.

    BTW, the only reason I understood the references to the Nazis was because of my old pair, who live through the times. Although I remember my dad rolling his eyes at it and thinking it was too on the nose as it were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭plodder


    The McGregor incident was toe-curling. He got a lot of time on the Sky News report last night to spout his BS.

    This autopen thing is completely bizarre though. Whatever about using it to sign letters to citizens (which was probably the original purpose), the fact that Obama used it to sign legislation when he wasn't even in the country, is incredible. Maybe the courts there would allow that, but I seriously doubt they would here. It completely misses the whole point of signatures on important documents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭8mv


    Like McGregor, you're claiming to speak for the people of Ireland. His views, and yours, are not mine. You speak for yourself only.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,814 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Understandable that we focus on the McGregor visit, but the casual ignoring of court orders over the weekend is a much bigger deal.

    There's a slippery slope there - to an extent the court system has always been powerless of itself and relies on the good faith of people with actual power to follow and/or enforce even when they actively dislike what the court has directed. If that changes, then you are definitely heading into a whole new ball-game. The parallels with various 1920s European events would be fairly stark.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,994 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    mcgregors presidential campaign has begun!



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: If you want to discuss immigration and Ireland there's a thread to do that in, no need to bring it up in this thread as well. Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,589 ✭✭✭McFly85


    McGregor hasn’t a hope of getting anywhere near the presidency. He won’t manage to get a nomination, what CC or TD would want to be associated with promoting a convicted rapist?

    And anyway, we are a million miles away from the US politically. You can see how poorly populists do in our elections and that’s the sort of bucket that McGregor would be in - we aren’t going to buy MAGA nonsense here. And as everyone understands(apart from McGregor is seems) that it’s largely a ceremonial role and that you’re really an ambassador for Ireland and Irish culture globally, there’s no chance that the majority of Irish citizens would think he remotely fits that bill. It’s more realistic to argue that he is the least popular Irish celebrity today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭plodder


    True, but when push comes to shove, the important people (like army generals, and it seems so weird pointing this out wrt to the US) take an oath specifically to defend the constitution, rather than to the commander in chief personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,875 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    As Trump wants it to go to SCOTUS, the future will be made by them; a straight forward decision by them to play along with their strong president in line with their "official duties" sidestep or breaking the bond by telling him that the lower courts orders are legally binding on him and must be complied with forthwith. SCOTUS will probably say it is not going to review the orders and will leave things to be decided by the lower courts judges; the Pontius Pilate precedence again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Does Trump actually have to pay $83.3 million to E. Jean Carroll? Not immediately, at least

    Before Donald Trump delivers any amount of monetary damages to E. Jean Carroll, he could engage in a long appeals process.

    theconversation.com

    theconversation.com


    "With Trump in particular, who is well known for drawing out legal processes, the appeals process could take a long time. It just depends. It could take years.
    And the $65 million of punitive damages, in particular, is not about how much Carroll was harmed. It is about punishing Trump’s bad behavior and getting him to stop doing it".

    Does seem Carroll could be in for a very long wait to get paid, Trump will employ the delay, delay tactics and might well be lying beside Ivana before this gets settled, imagine having to go after Trump's estate as his vulture family come to pick his bones.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    A digital signature is every bit as valid as an ink signature. They are used incredibly frequently at all levels of business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I signed for my mortgage digitally… I've signed my work contracts digitally.… Plenty of things are viewed as credible signatures. Trump just thinks the performance of signing is work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭plodder


    An autopen is not a digital signature. It is literally a facsimile of an actual signature, no different from photocopying a real one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And the complaint coming from Trump who never signed any instructions to declassify the documents he stole but used the defence that as POTUS once he thinks it and orders it is official.

    So it's just rubbish about Biden digital signatures

    Post edited by Leroy42 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭plodder


    I totally get the hypocrisy and double standards arguments about Trump. He definitely used the same thing himself in his first term. But, I just find it astonishing that legislation was signed into law with a fake signature, when potus wasn't even in the country. Of course, he can argue validly, that his intent was to sign it. But why bother with the fake signature, and not use some artifice like (pp per procurationem) ? And it does open the door to much more concerning issues around whether Biden knew about some of the pardons that he supposedly signed. That's why actually putting ink to paper in your own hand matters sometimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,358 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    President of what though? Suggestions please…..

    Yesterday was an embarrassment to Ireland, the office of the U.S Presidency… and to anyone with a hint of decent moral standards…

    The only way that Circus show in the Oval office could have been any worse was if Harvey Weinstein, Jeffery Epstein and P.Diddy were there also…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,091 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    i don't think there's a single council where a non mainstream party or independents control, let alone 4 of them. Given the **** show the last time out, the parties will completely lock down the nominations.

    I doubt there will be any candidates to emerge from the Councils, let alone a character such as McGregor.

    McGregor could conceivably take a seat in a general election though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭randd1


    He might be voted in once as a protest vote, but there's not a chance he'd get voted in twice.

    First of all you'd have to turn up, and he's highly unlikely to do anything other than threaten to hit someone.

    Secondly, you'd have to do something for your constituents, and the only thing he does for his constituents is keep the drug suppliers busy and punch old men in the face for refusing whiskey.

    And third, there's every chance he'd be arrested for possession while entering the Dáil, and he'd be banned from it.

    As for the Presidency, I'm not joking, as a general rule he's so despised in Ireland in the main that I would probably stand a better chance if, and my sole reason for campaign for running would be for letting an ordinary lad have a much fancier gaff than he currently has and free tickets to major sports events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    What fake signature are you talking about?

    You think someone forged Bidens signature?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    After The Monk fiasco I don't think McGregor is as far away from the Presidency as people here think.

    SInn Fein are populist and do extremely well here. A right wing populist hasn't done well here (bar Casey) because so far we haven't had one with charisma or one which the media becomes totally obsessed with, when that happens everything will change here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭pah


    Trump is just an international embarrassment and caricature of himself at this stage. My algorithm is flooded with Trump content and I can't take it anymore. Have deleted several SM apps from phone as it's all I'm seeing.

    This one link here tells you all you need to know about this administration and who they will prioritise over the next 4 years. Anyone thinking that people who made their billions standing on everyone else's heads have their best interests at heart are so delusional they are beyond conversion.

    https://www.citizen.org/article/trumps-billionaire-cabinet-represents-the-top-0001-percent/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,358 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    He's very far from gaining any public office position, it's just not how politics works over here.. Maybe Trump can give him a job over there, and maybe citizenship so he will never come back to Ireland..

    As for Sinn Fein, they're very much a left wing party so wouldn't go anywhere near the likes of McGregor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Lets be honest , a certain element of the British and the Americans love parading McGregor around because it reassures them of their established stereotypes of the Irish. Namely that we are a bunch of clowns. So I'm not surprised they gave him loads of air time.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    All of which, it turned out, proved to have the effect (or lack of effect) I had correctly postulated at the time.

    If it is your perception that I am a Trump supporter because of this, I can accept that reality. I'm not one, but I accept that you incorrectly think so. This dissociation between what one believes should be and what is seems to be an area you have having difficulty with, given this is the second example you have exhibited in a short period of time.



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