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Eir - now offering 2Gb fibre broadband and new WiFi 7 device

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  • #182
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,717 ✭✭✭✭guil


    If you login to the router at 192.168.1.254
    Scroll down a bit and click on the wifi settings icon and click private. Scroll to the bottom there and should be a settings for wifi 7 enhanced mode. If that's on just change the security for 2.4ghz and 5 ghz to wpa2 and click apply



  • #183
    vectra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,674 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    @guil
    Sorted,
    Thanks

    Post edited by vectra on


  • #184
    masterofp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭masterofp


    Did anyone managed to sign in to the extender web interface? Seems to not have password printed and not taking the password from the main router?

    Just curious to go in and poke around.



  • #185
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    Yea, there's a UI but no password.

    I think I might look out for alternative hardware tbh



  • #186
    masterofp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭masterofp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123261181#Comment_123261181

    Same here, for a typical home user, it should be sufficient, but I cant get around how slow and glitch the UI is. It also loves to reboot when I am doing something like WPS.



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  • #187
    vectra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,674 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Spent at least half the day today trying to hook the extender to the modem with no joy.
    Discovered my homepod and cctv cameras were all out of service.
    Took the modem back out and reinstalled the 3000 and mesh unit I had. Normal service resumed.
    Think I will cancel this and stay as I am .



  • #188
    Przemek1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭Przemek1983


    Have any of you managed to get to the configuration page for the eir wifi box?
    I find it at 192.168.1.196
    I cannot find the login details.
    The login and password from the fiber box do not match.
    login: admin Password: admin does not work either.

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    I still have a problem with my main router fiber box. It does not show connected devices. Eir support is unable to help me because they say they cannot remotely log into my router.

    Hard reset doesn't help

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  • #189
    masterofp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭masterofp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123268636#Comment_123268636

    My issues started when I introduced the extender to the network. I an unable now to log in to the router, as it keeps just spinning. I think it's the extenders fault. as it was working for over a week OK-ish without the extender.



  • #190
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Mother of God it looks like a shyt show with both the router and the extender, why do companies do this? It's like they use the customers as guinea pigs for the crappy equipment.



  • #191
    piplip87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭piplip87


    Lads thinking of biting the bullet on this one and the best Sky can do is 130 broadband and TV& was thinking of going broadband only.

    Whats the Android box like does it have full Android TV interface, can we get Stremio and IPTV apps to it ?



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  • #192
    Raichų
    Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123269655#Comment_123269655

    yes you can.



  • #193
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123269619#Comment_123269619

    The router's quite decent - the extenders however seem to really not cut it.

    Anything connecting to the main router that supports multiple bands and WiFi 6E is connecting at over 1300Mbit/s. If they happen to catch an extender, that drops to under 300mbit/s.

    Seems the issue is the backhaul between the extenders and the router.



  • #194
    Raichų
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270082#Comment_123270082

    honestly have no issues with either myself. Not sure why!



  • #195
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    It's unreal in terms of download speed, and it's much more than the vast majority of people can even use.

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  • #196
    Raichų
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270232#Comment_123270232

    But wait til June- it goes up 2.5x!



  • #197
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270300#Comment_123270300

    Speeds which current network cards cannot support so nobody will see these speeds anyway! 2.5 gigs is the most people will see if they have a 2.5G Network card installed. I wish they would just upgrade the entire network to be XGS-Pon compatible instead of ploughing away with 5gig speeds which no household will be able to make use of.



  • #198
    Raichų
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270616#Comment_123270616

    honestly it’s a bit ridiculous but I suspect they’d rather focus on areas that have no FTTH at the min as opposed to retroactively bringing everyone to 2gb+ when it’s not really “needed”.

    Obviously no idea and could be that Open Eir will be upgrading all areas to 5gb in advance of launch- but look when they can’t even get NBI on it properly still it’s likely not gonna happen.



  • #199
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    The main reason is it doesn't really cost them anything. Their Illiad sister companies in France and Switzerland off luidicoiusyly high speeds as standard. 8Gbits symmetric in the case of Free.fr 10Gbits symmetric for Salt.ch 5Gbits down / 700Mbits up on Iliad.it

    The network supports up to 10Gbit/s on the XGS-PON network, yet end users can't realistically use more than about 2.5Gbit/s until WiFi 7 becomes standard on devices anyway.

    10Gbits ethernet cards are not common, yet.

    DOCSIS used on cable modems doesn't get quite up to those kinds of speeds and 5G definitely doesn't, so it makes FTTH seem way better.



  • #200
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,336 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270738#Comment_123270738

    Eir have certainly come on along way since the dial up days back in the early 2000s when every other European country was mostly on ADSL. It seems Eir have now gone the other direction by soon offering speeds people cannot possibly avail of for another few years when 5g network cards become widely available to purchase from pc build websites like PC Specialist, Alienware/Dell etc.

    I wonder what will happen in June, the 2gb plan becomes 5gb and then there is the 500 and 1000 plans. Maybe they will retire the 500 plan and 1gb becomes the new minimum speed plan. OpenEir ditched the 100 and 300 speed profiles a few years ago in favour of 500 so a fair chance the 500 could retire in June. If that happens they would have to drop the price of the 1000 plan which is very expensive with Eir outside of new customer deals.



  • #201
    PixelCrafter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    Effectively Eir isn't the same company. It was run into the ground by investors who just wanted to milk it dry and it went bankrupt in 2012, wiping out most of its shareholders in the process. What's there now is two companies.

    Eir retail is owned effectively by Iliad, and OpenEir - the access network element is owned by Iliad and Infravia.

    You're basically dealing with a French telco now.

    There's also far more competition these days too. Neither Eir nor OpenEir are monopolies in almost any part of the country - in urban areas they're up against Liberty Global (Virgin) and Siro, which hosts multiple networks and then in really rural locations they've offloaded the hard to reach places to NBI.

    5G is also a viable competitor which brings 3 in particular into the game for residential broadband.

    It's just a totally different market now.



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  • #202
    Raichų
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270820#Comment_123270820

    eir isn’t allowed reduce prices without comregs approval.



  • #203
    Raichų
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270838#Comment_123270838

    NBI has taken the piss a bit imo. I’ve been sent to areas that are just gone live for open eir to find out NBI was live 6 months ago- doesn’t make any sense.

    Estates in castlecomer in Kilkenny fully NBI live- but I mean come on it’s hardly a hard to reach rural area?



  • #204
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270953#Comment_123270953

    No blame on NBI. They are only doing as their NBP contract requires by rolling out fibre to the intervention areas.

    This is down to the commercial operators, when the intervention area map was being compiled by the Dept of Communications, not planning to rollout hi-speed broadband (>30 Mbps) into those areas and so they had to be included in the intervention area map.

    I've seen locally where OpenEir has encroached into the intervention area where NBI hasn't arrived yet, NBI will follow in due course with their fibre as per their contract.

    NBI on the other hand cannot rollout fibre into the commercial viable areas outside of the intervention areas.

    Yours is the first I've heard of OpenEir rolling into an intervention area after NBI had already rolled out their fibre.

    Under the NBP contract there is a €130m encroachment fund (part of the €500 million contract assumption or contingency subsidy) to compensate NBI if a commercial operator encroaches into the NBP intervention areas, but to the best of my knowledge none has been drawn down and NBI will continue the rollout into the encroached areas.

    OpenEir are playing silly buggers imo, rolling out fibre into NBP intervention areas and not rolling out fibre to so called commercial viable areas they said they could do during the planning phase of the NBP. OpenEir and SIRO are not prohibited from rolling out fibre into the intervention area.

    The outcome of this is likely to be an urban NBP, already being discussed, following the failure of OpenEir and SIRO to provide fibre to these so called commercially viable areas.

    Post edited by The Cush on


  • #205
    eronayne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭eronayne


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123270616#Comment_123270616

    Plenty of newer apple Mac coming with 10g Ethernet these days



  • #206
    PixelCrafter
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    10G ethernet cards aren't not that expensive and likely to become standard in a relatively short period of time.

    The one thing I'd say on this discussion is that whatever the latest broadband speed was, it always seemed ludicrously fast. There was a time we couldn't imagine why anyone could possibly need more than 30mbit/s, and now you'd have people complaining even their mobile broadband is pathetic at those speeds.

    Bandwidth increases, once they're fairly widespread, tend to find stuff to fill them.



  • #207
    Raichų
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123272861#Comment_123272861

    look it’s fair to say that while there’s probably no use case to download things @ 2 or even 5gb as file sizes just are not there yet.. there’s still a lot to say about the amount of devices connecting in a home now.

    Almost every house I visit these days is like Fort Knox for cctv and video doorbells etc. I think anyone worrying they haven’t maxed their bandwidth out yet and therefore don’t need an upgrade are the exact ones who need the upgrade.

    I reckon more importantly they need to sort out the teething problems with the mesh system etc to make any real value out of the extra speed. I personally am having no concerns at present with one booster but I’m reluctant to add extra on the feedback here.



  • #208
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,717 ✭✭✭✭guil


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123268636#Comment_123268636

    That's odd. It's usually 192.168.1.254
    User is admin and password is on the back of the router just under the power wire. It's the one under Box password



  • #209
    Thanatus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Thanatus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123215974#Comment_123215974

    Where did you find details about the 5Gbps Openeir Profile? I've been looking and haven't found anything myself.



  • #210
    bk
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123271419#Comment_123271419

    The outcome of this is likely to be an urban NBP, already being discussed, following the failure of OpenEir and SIRO to provide fibre to these so called commercially viable areas.

    The minute the urban NBP areas are announced, OpenEir/VM/Siro will all be rushing in to service them!

    Experienced the same myself, live in an apartment building which for years had a VM DOCSIS monopoly. Finally along comes OpenEIR FTTH, two months after they opened orders and noticeably started losing customers in the building, along rushes VM to FTTH up the building too!

    Competition is a great motivator. Likely Eir were happy selling crappy 10mb/s xDSL to those poor rural users, along comes the NBP, Eir loses customers and suddenly they are motivated to upgrade the area.



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  • #211
    masterofp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭masterofp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123276209#Comment_123276209

    He's talking about the WiFi Extender, there is a logon page for this device, but no password on sticker. Tried calling Eir support to get that, but they kept insisting there is no web page to log in to.



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