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Conor McGregor Megathread *Mod Warning in OP Updated 20th April*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭juno10353


    He is definitely trying to break Nikita and warn anyone going against him that he'll make their lives hell. I'm sure Nikita just wants her life back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,008 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    It'll be interesting to see what his grounds for the appeal are. Is it just a show for PR or does he have something substantial.

    Also at the time of the judgement it was said he had 28 days to lodge his appeal, but we're way over that. Was that information incorrect or is this an appeal.on different grounds?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭reclose


    He had to appeal if he was going to continue to protest his innocence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,485 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Not really, nobody except his fan base will believe hes innocent and they would lap up him claiming there was some kind of judicial conspiracy against him etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭reclose


    If you are going around saying you’re innocent and you don’t appeal the verdict then it’s a bit of a contradiction.
    I think he had to appeal to keep up the facade.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod - a number of off topic and speculative posts have been deleted. You can discuss the facts of the case, but please do not discuss possible future events that may never happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    You are correct, the medical evidence was damning.

    From what I have seen of the evidence, I cannot see how the jury could have reached any other conclusion.

    Where I think that the jury fell down is that the level of compensation fell way too low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,185 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    With all the misbehaving online could the appeal process actually add more damages against c mc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    His bid to overturn a civil case finding that he sexually assaulted a woman in a Dublin hotel seven years ago is due to be heard on 21 March at the Court of Appeal.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,185 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    No love for mcgregor at limp bizkit last night😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,235 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It's ok though cause he got the love from the White House/Oval Office orange buffoon.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,013 ✭✭✭Feisar


    The DPP would surely have brought a criminal case if the evidence was damning.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Unfortunately not. There is a serious issue with the lack of prosecutions in rape and sexual assault cases.

    Less than a fifth of reported sexual assault cases reported result in a prosecution. Given that in the vast vast majority of those complaints, the alleged perpetrator is identified, that is a shocking statistic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,914 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Not this again 🤦‍♂️

    This has been discussed multiple times on the thread already, he has been found liable for sexual assaulting the complainant, end of story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,376 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I saw that on reddit. The whole crowd booing him.

    There's one comment I saw which was along the lines of, if i was there I'd have booed but i would have looked over my shoulder first to make sure the fecker wasn't standing behind me :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    You can say 'end of story' but it's a valid point though.

    He was found guilty in a civil case, not a criminal case. Different standards of proof, with the criminal case needing a higher level of proof. The DPP reckoned there wasn't enough proof for a reasonable chance of a criminal conviction so it's fair to bring up that point.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It's not a fair point, it's just a crap attempt to throw muck at a rape victim because of your hard on for the rapist. Would you be as comfortable had it been your mother or sister that was raped?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    It's not a muck throwing exercise, it's stating a fact. I'm certainly not arguing that he didn't rape Nikita Hand. I agree with the jury finding him guilty in the civil case. Whether or not it was my mother or sister that was raped doesn't change the fact that the DPP didn't press charges because they weren't confident of a conviction.

    I'm not defending McGregor here in case you think I am. I think he is a scumbag of the highest order but the fact is that the DPP didn't press charges.

    I also think Nikita Hand is very brave for doing what she did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,128 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    but we all know this. The DPP didn’t press charges. Some folks keep harping on about this to make out that he did not rape Ms. Hand and that she lied. Do you think this?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Taking you on your word, I'd suggest spending some time searching Google for some legal papers and articles on the difficulties in bringing rape cases to a successful outcome in a criminal trial. Then revisit why Hand was forced to pursue a civil action against her attacker.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I've said in the post you quoted that I agree with the jury finding him guilty so I'm confused why you seem to think I might be downplaying what he did or trying to make out that he didn't rape Ms. Hand. So for clarity, I also think he did it. And I think it's fairly obvious that I don't think she lied, especially when, in the same post, I stated she was very brave for doing what she did.

    I'm well aware how difficult it is to get a criminal conviction for rape or sexual assault. But again, stating that the DPP didn't charge him with rape is not claiming he is innocent, it's just stating that the DPP didn't think they'd reach the bar for a successful criminal conviction. That's not a slur on Nikita Hand, it's just saying what the DPP thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,089 ✭✭✭Homelander


    There is a difference though between the difficulty in bringing cases to a successful outcome versus taking a case at all.

    The DPP looked at this case and found there wasn't enough credible evidence to take it to trial, the burden of proof in a civil case is nowhere near what it is in a criminal case.

    Criminal case, you have to convince beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did something. A civil case is simply on the balance of probability and there is a good reason criminal cases don't work that way.

    I have no problem either with the civil case going against him, and I certainly don't think McGregor is anything other than a complete scumbag for that matter, nor does the civil case evidence show him to be anything else.

    But it's not as simple as claiming that McGregor definitely did it, and that the evidence irrefutably proves it, and the DPP somehow got it completely wrong.

    As for McGregor himself, sooner or later his behavior will catch up to him one way or another. I don't like the phrase "no smoke without fire" generally but in his case he's lighting bonfires in recent years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Papagei




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Papagei


    You seem to be talking as if you know for sure that Conor McGregor raped Nikita Hand. Nobody knows for sure apart Conor McGregor or Nikita Hand.The evidence is far from conclusive either way. On the balance of evidence I don't think he raped her. I'd be 70% he didn't 30% he did. It's nonsenical to speak as if you 100% know what happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭Papagei


    If he actually raped her I don't think he'd appeal, I reckon he would want it slowly forgotten and out of the headlines and he'd be happy with grtting away with a fine for him that is nothing. His appeal, together with the evidence reported upon suggests to me that he didn't rape her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    "If he actually raped her, I don't think he'd appeal…"

    Yes, because Conor McGregor has always been a gracious loser and accepting when he's had his arse handed to him.

    The evidence, such as that from the paramedic and the doctor who had to ply her tampon out of her, suggests he absolutely raped her and the jury and the judge agree.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    I've literally given you the evidence that shows McGregor is lying and you're asking me does anything not put doubt in my mind.

    The jury literally saw and heard every shred of evidence that each side put forward and they sided with Nikita Hand, and the judge agreed with them.

    Seriously mate, he won't shag you. Move on.



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